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Hello there OCN! Hoping you can help me out with a little bit of a debate I'm having with myself as to which to get. Hybrid is also an option. Here is my situation:

- My storage needs are not THAT big. About 250 GB is the "sweet spot" for me.
- This drive will be going into a new laptop. This laptop will come with an HDD, so the SSD would be "bought", while the HDD option would be "free."
- My budget isn't definite, but it is low. I want the cheapest possible, but if an SSD will be very useful for my needs, then I don't mind spending the money.
- Battery life is important to me. Will an SSD genuinely increase my battery life significantly over an HDD? If so, by how much?
- Noise is important to me. However, most HDDs are near silent anyways, no?
- Boot times aren't that important to me. As long as they're sub-30 seconds, I'm happy. My current 5400 RPM HDD boots in ~25 seconds, so I'm satisfied.
- I do not regularly open up many large programs like After Effects or anything. Most of my "large programs" would include Photoshop, Microsoft Word, Steam, games, Skype, and movies. That's about it.
- I do not like that SSDs slow down they more full they get. How significant is this effect?

Will an SSD improve my experience a lot? If you need anymore information, I'll happily provide it.

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THere would be some decent benefits in speed and battery. Given that your storage needs are modest I would go for a SSD. A hybrid may be detrimental to battery life as its essentially two devices. The below should answer your questions.

http://www.storagereview.com/ssd_vs_hdd
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Okay thank you for your reply. I have one more question.

Does read and write speeds really effect everyday use?

I do not really move very large files often, and I dont use many programs that require massive amounts of drive bandwidth (or atleast I dont think I do).

Will I still get fast boot up times and fast application loadings and etc (every day use things) if I go with a slower SSD rather than a faster one? Im mainly asking this because I'd rather have a more reliable/cheaper SSD over the fastest SSD on the market as long as it doesnt majorly sacrifice the every day use benefit of an SSD.
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A Hybrid Drive sounds like the ideal candidate for your needs, but I can't help but be disappointed by the current available options, especially now that the Seagate drives went from pretty good 7200rpm/8GB SLC NAND/750GB HDD to just 5400rpm/MLC NANDDinstead of focusing on improving the performance of the 7200rpm variants (both drive performance and power efficiency) by simply increasing the amount of NAND Flash per drive and better optimizing the caching algorithm.

I have been waiting for the WD 7mm thick hybrid drives, which are allegedly built around the 7200rpm platter speed with single platters for both the 500GB and 1TB sizes, and which utilize 24GB SLC/eMLC NAND per drive.

More NAND = better performance + better power efficiency as the platters can offload more data into cache, and have enough room to cache a significant amount of write data so that the drive need only spin up once the buffer becomes close to or completely full.

If integrated properly, I could see this resulting in over 90 percent LESS "spin up time" than current drives, and as they're designed for laptop/ultrabook usage, there's already a battery backup inherent to the platform.

If WD pulls it off, I'll be replacing the drives in all four of my laptops with them, and adding 2-4 of the 1TB (or 500GB, depending on price/capacity) in a RAID0 array in my desktop. That's a sweet, sweet 96GB of NAND caching for 2-4TB of RAID0 7200rpm goodness! Even if the spinners are only capable of 140-160MB/sec, that's still a good 500-550MB/sec transfer speed from the drives, and up to 1.2-1.4GB/sec from the huge cache.

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Okay thank you for your reply. I have one more question.

Does read and write speeds really effect everyday use?

I do not really move very large files often, and I dont use many programs that require massive amounts of drive bandwidth (or atleast I dont think I do).

Will I still get fast boot up times and fast application loadings and etc (every day use things) if I go with a slower SSD rather than a faster one? Im mainly asking this because I'd rather have a more reliable/cheaper SSD over the fastest SSD on the market as long as it doesnt majorly sacrifice the every day use benefit of an SSD.

Read speeds affect everyday use far more than write speeds. Almost everything you do with a computer (booting up, loading programs, etc.) will be improved by getting an SSD to read data off of, but write speeds are of less importance (especially if you're not writing large amounts of data regularly).

In your case, getting a "budget" SSD like the Samsung 840 (with good read speeds and middling write speeds) would be a more cost-effective option than getting a higher-performance Samsung 840 Pro (which has much higher write speeds).
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Yes, but there's also the whole issue of how long you retain those peak speeds... I realize that many people will upgrade before ever wearing out an SSD, but personally I like knowing that I can beat on my SSD and not cause any permanent speed decrease or any significant wear. Then again, that's why I buy Samsung 830's, 840Pro's, and Plextor M5P-Xtreme SSD's....
   
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Yes, but there's also the whole issue of how long you retain those peak speeds... I realize that many people will upgrade before ever wearing out an SSD, but personally I like knowing that I can beat on my SSD and not cause any permanent speed decrease or any significant wear. Then again, that's why I buy Samsung 830's, 840Pro's, and Plextor M5P-Xtreme SSD's....

Im one of those people who use the crap out of my hardware as long as they live. My first laptop (big ol' 17" Pentium M) is still sitting in my closet as a backup. My second laptop, that broke catastrophically after a hinge cracked and destroyed the motherboard; still has its parts in use. The RAM and HDD are being used in my dad's HTPC whilst the CPU is sitting in my closet for resale. My third laptop, and extremely old Compaq Armada (was kinda just bought second hand for 20$ to keep me from being computer-less) still has it's charger being passed around the school to use with donated laptops, and it's HDD too. It was also used as a guinea pig in the computer engineering class to show how laptop parts are assorted different from desktops. Unfortunately the experience killed it. Anyways, my current laptop will probably replace my backup once I get a new laptop.

So it's likely I'll be using the SSD for a long time. Probably to the point where it's been well worth the money, but still; longevity is real nice for me.

Either way; can anyone explain to me as to why larger SSDs are faster than smaller ones? I thought they didnt really have any spacial density to affect their performance unlike an HDD.
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They have more NAND chips, which results in more parallel access points essentially. Like why a 10 disk RAID0 is faster thana 6 disk aarray.
   
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You dont need an SSD if you dont care about fast boot and large apps, get a hybrid!
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Cooler Master 412s - CPU Cooler (push/pull) Windows 10 Samsung LED S22D300 Corsair Strafe RGB Cherry MX Red switches 
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Corsair RM650x Corsair 400C ROCCAT TYON Razer Goliathus Speed Extended 
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i7-4710HQ Acer GTX 860m 8 GB 
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WD Blue Kingston SSD 
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AMD FX 8350 Black Edition @ 4.22Ghz ASUS CROSSHAIR V FORMULA Z Sapphire 7870 Flex GHz edition G Skill TridentX 16GB @2133Mhz 
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Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm (RAID 1) Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm (RAID 1) Samsung 840 PRO (RAID 0) Samsung 840 PRO (RAID 0) 
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Pioneer Bluray Reader/Writer 2x NZXT NS-F200 Fans Windows 8 Pro LG 27" FULL HD 
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Samsung MultiTouch 22" FULL HD Zalman ZM750-XG Gold NZXT 820 
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Intel i5 6600K @ 4.4GHz ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING 6870 G.Skill RipjawsV 16GB DDR4-2400MHz  
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Samsung 820 120GB SSD Samsung 840 EVO 250GB SSD Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD Western Digital Blue 500GB 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Cooler Master 412s - CPU Cooler (push/pull) Windows 10 Samsung LED S22D300 Corsair Strafe RGB Cherry MX Red switches 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair RM650x Corsair 400C ROCCAT TYON Razer Goliathus Speed Extended 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-4710HQ Acer GTX 860m 8 GB 
Hard DriveHard Drive
WD Blue Kingston SSD 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 8350 Black Edition @ 4.22Ghz ASUS CROSSHAIR V FORMULA Z Sapphire 7870 Flex GHz edition G Skill TridentX 16GB @2133Mhz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm (RAID 1) Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm (RAID 1) Samsung 840 PRO (RAID 0) Samsung 840 PRO (RAID 0) 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Pioneer Bluray Reader/Writer 2x NZXT NS-F200 Fans Windows 8 Pro LG 27" FULL HD 
MonitorPowerCase
Samsung MultiTouch 22" FULL HD Zalman ZM750-XG Gold NZXT 820 
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