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Look at the Xbox 360 vs PS3
PS3 is more powerful, yet most multi-plat games play better on XBox 360.
Why is this? PS3 is simply harder to develop games on.

It seems to be the PS4 vs Xbox One will be similar as PS3 vs Xbox 360.
PS3 - Stronger, harder to develop for
Xbox 360 - weaker, easier to code (DX11.1?yes)

I doubt that will be in this case.  Seeing as both platforms are using tech very similar to each other.

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Look at the Xbox 360 vs PS3
PS3 is more powerful, yet most multi-plat games play better on XBox 360.
Why is this? PS3 is simply harder to develop games on.

It seems to be the PS4 vs Xbox One will be similar as PS3 vs Xbox 360.
PS3 - Stronger, harder to develop for
Xbox 360 - weaker, easier to code (DX11.1?yes)
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Originally Posted by Mygaffer View Post

Except the Cell was significantly different from the xbox360'd processor and much more difficult to develop for. The PS4 has the exact same architecture as the Xbone, just more of it. Like the Xbone has a 7850 and the PS4 has a 7950.(that is just an analogy and not meant to reflect the actual hardware).

I think it will be a big leg up for PS4. While the games will be similar, the PS4 versions of games will almost always be a little bit better. More AA, more consistent frame rate, higher poly models, more tessellation, etc.
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Huh? OpenGL??? Why? I thought Sony had their own graphics API, PSGL. Also, why are they using shared RAM? That's like an integrated GPU on a low end computer. I thought GPU's benefited greatly from dedicated memory. The PS4 has a true dedicated GPU, right? The AMD APU isn't handling the graphics calculations, is it?

You haven't been reading the news much, have you? Neither have you read anything about (or haven't understood) HSA and hUMA. Try going through a few of those articles and come back. Google is your friend.
     
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Look at the Xbox 360 vs PS3
PS3 is more powerful, yet most multi-plat games play better on XBox 360.
Why is this? PS3 is simply harder to develop games on.

It seems to be the PS4 vs Xbox One will be similar as PS3 vs Xbox 360.
PS3 - Stronger, harder to develop for
Xbox 360 - weaker, easier to code (DX11.1?yes)

No, the will be exactly the same to develop for.
PS4 games will look better.

PS4 will win this generation easy.
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It seems to be the PS4 vs Xbox One will be similar as PS3 vs Xbox 360.
PS3 - Stronger, harder to develop for
Xbox 360 - weaker, easier to code (DX11.1?yes)

PS4 vs Xbone:

similarities:
x86 architecture (benefits: you can work on it as if you were coding on a PC)
hUMA (benefits: infinitely easier to share assets between CPU and GPU)

differences:
Xbone has fewer GPU cores (weaker raw performance)
PS4 has GDDR5 vs Xbone's DDR3 (weaker raw performance)
Xbone can flip between TV and games (???)


Yeah, clearly the situation between the PS4 and Xbone is similar.
     
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Wow.

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I don't know which console to get now, I absolutely love Xbox and yes this is 100% fan boy.
But i also love better graphics and higher fps.
I just wish the Playstation had the same controller the xbox had instant buy for me.
So i think i might just get both.
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Huh? OpenGL??? Why? I thought Sony had their own graphics API, PSGL. Also, why are they using shared RAM? That's like an integrated GPU on a low end computer. I thought GPU's benefited greatly from dedicated memory. The PS4 has a true dedicated GPU, right? The AMD APU isn't handling the graphics calculations, is it?
PSGL is Sony's version of OpenGL.

And it's GDDR5 RAM, meaning that it would beat the bandwidth of normal DDR3.
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It seems to be the PS4 vs Xbox One will be similar as PS3 vs Xbox 360.
PS3 - Stronger, harder to develop for
Xbox 360 - weaker, easier to code (DX11.1?yes)

Nope. OpenGL vs DIrectX doesn't make that much of a difference especially when they already had to use it for PS3, PS2, Wii, Wii U, etc and other than that, the PS4 is just a much faster XBOne with less software overhead and no eDRAM. (Seriously, the XBOne is rumoured to restrict access to 10% of the GPU, 2 CPU cores and 3GB of RAM for its 3 OS setup, all we know on the PS4 is that it'll leave 7GB RAM for developers and probably much more GPU and maybe more CPU.)

Honestly, it highly depends on what exclusives are announced at E3...MS knows now that they don't have the gaming community in the bag like they seemed to think pre-XBOne launch and will try to pull big guns, but the PS4 seems like it's less rushed, has more exclusives and is just a better system with what we know now.
    
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I don't know which console to get now, I absolutely love Xbox and yes this is 100% fan boy.
But i also love better graphics and higher fps.
I just wish the Playstation had the same controller the xbox had instant buy for me.
So i think i might just get both.

I'm hoping for some sort of hack to allow xbox controllers to work on the ps4. I absolutely hate the playstation controller.
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Look at the Xbox 360 vs PS3
PS3 is more powerful, yet most multi-plat games play better on XBox 360.
Why is this? PS3 is simply harder to develop games on.

It seems to be the PS4 vs Xbox One will be similar as PS3 vs Xbox 360.
PS3 - Stronger, harder to develop for
Xbox 360 - weaker, easier to code (DX11.1?yes)

The ps3 cpu is more power than the xbox. The xbox gpu is more powerful than the ps3's gpu.

Its not all about coding.
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