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Hey OCN, i'm ready to venture into Water cooling for the first time but I need some help.


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I ordered the XSPC 360 D5 kit + XSPC Titan Water block. Throwing the 360 rad up top. If I am unsatisfied with performance and acustics, I will add another radiator in the future. Right now, I have no plans to do such. 360 should be enough for a 2011 cpu and 1 gpu.

I just have some questions. I'm not sure if I should use a silver coil or what. From the pictures I have seen, both blocks are pure copper. Not sure if running silver in the loop will lead to corrosion or what. I also want to figure out a drain port. Any suggestions?

Is there anything else I am missing?

Updated picture of rig.



Red = rad
Blue = blocks
Yellow = runs

Bay/Res will be up top.






My goal is to have similar/cooler temps then air while hopefully being quieter. I'm more concerned with the heat on the CPU then the GPU.
Edited by Slaughtahouse - 1/12/14 at 6:26pm
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"while hopefully being quieter" This is a huge misconception with water cooling. If you water cooled your system right now, it will be louder guaranteed. You'd have to lower fan rpm, ground the pump perfectly (not possible if mounting from dual bay res) and be picky with radiator selection to match your current system noise.

There is no point in watercooling your system (from a logical standpoint) if you're looking for the same temps and less noise than air cooling. I don't want to discourage you though, water cooling a rig is a great learning experience.
Edited by TheLawIX - 5/25/13 at 8:01pm
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Well idling sound I can deal with. The only noise that I don't like is from my shroud gpu while gaming. I'd imagine the 780 sounding the same. I usually play at a volume where it cancels it out but at night I usually play low volume. I figured it wouldn't be "teh quiet" overall but im sure it would help. I also got a few quiet SP 120s ready to roll right now. I'd just throw those on the rads. Especially if I get a titan/780 water block.
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Yeah you're going to get a pretty consistent sound with a WC system (aside from the PSU fan doing it's business) . My next WC build will maximize performance while minimizing noise and eliminating vibration. Just waiting on my 900D frown.gif
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With that in mind, any recommendations? I'm not sure where to start here. Well, I kinda do but I've only looked at XSPC. I want to hear some opinions. Plus im really keen on doing metal piping. Something like this.

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Metal and copper piping will be incredibly difficult to work with unless you're a mason. I recommend XSPC for radiators, EK for CPU/CPU blocks and without a question the MCP655 pump. Here's what I was thinking for my 900D CLICK. It's a pretty rough draft and I know you plan on using slightly different material/case/etc. but anything that I am using in my build I would recommend to most users.
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I don't know why anyone would think watercooling is louder than a blower GPU.

Sure fans are louder on rads than in open air but with a slim 360 and 240 cooling a 7970 and 3570K overclocked high, 1500RPM is all I need on the fans to get a sub 10C Air/water delta ... far lower temps than air cooled. I have a bay res pump and it can't be heard when the system is idling and I don't see how any pump could compare to air cooling anway.

There is a big difference between being so called 'silent' and just being quieter than air cooling. Even with a single rad if you are not too fussed about letting temps go up a bit above the usual very low levels water coolers like, a 15C delta is 50% more cooling for the same RPM ... you can then drop fans very low, and start getting properly quiet while still beating air temps.

Noise in any sort of cooling is mainly high speed air ... the whole point of water cooling is to transfer heat from a heatsink to a larger surface area. A larger surface area needs less air speed to dump heat to the same air volume.
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Metal and copper piping will be incredibly difficult to work with unless you're a mason. I recommend XSPC for radiators, EK for CPU/CPU blocks and without a question the MCP655 pump. Here's what I was thinking for my 900D CLICK. It's a pretty rough draft and I know you plan on using slightly different material/case/etc. but anything that I am using in my build I would recommend to most users.

Why would I have to have masonry experience? How does working with stone make a difference? It should be pretty simple. Not to toot my own horn, but it honestly doesn't look that complicated. I'm concerned about having the right connections and stuff to my hardware. I can bend all the piping my self.
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I don't know why anyone would think watercooling is louder than a blower GPU.

Sure fans are louder on rads than in open air but with a slim 360 and 240 cooling a 7970 and 3570K overclocked high, 1500RPM is all I need on the fans to get a sub 10C Air/water delta ... far lower temps than air cooled. I have a bay res pump and it can't be heard when the system is idling and I don't see how any pump could compare to air cooling anway.

There is a big difference between being so called 'silent' and just being quieter than air cooling. Even with a single rad if you are not too fussed about letting temps go up a bit above the usual very low levels water coolers like, a 15C delta is 50% more cooling for the same RPM ... you can then drop fans very low, and start getting properly quiet while still beating air temps.

Noise in any sort of cooling is mainly high speed air ... the whole point of water cooling is to transfer heat from a heatsink to a larger surface area. A larger surface area needs less air speed to dump heat to the same air volume.

Exactly, I understand it won't be silent, but it should still be noticeably different then stock air. Especially with my low rpm fans and no gpu fan grinding off in the background lol

What parts do you recommend?
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Haha, I meant metalworker or something of the sort, sorry I'm tired. If you think you're up for it give it a shot biggrin.gif
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lol no problem. I'd just need to find a miniature or small scaled pipe bender. Something like this



My brother told me he was gonna mill or CNC some water blocks he designed but I don't think he has the time to do such a thing.
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