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Just wondering what you guys think? Initially when haswell releases my plan was to buy a good ultra book, but now I am thinking it might be time to build a new rig. My i7 920 has been oc'ed to 3.8ghz since its release, running on water. A couple months ago I upgraded my video card to gtx 680 4gb, got a new monitor and have a couple ssds which I can't use to their full potential on the x58 classified. When the new haswell comes out I'll have my hx1000 ready. Secondly, what I am trying to figure out is if these days is if you still have to water cool (meaning I would have to buy new blocks) or did they get better with cooling for OC setups (sorry haven't followed anything related to rigs since building current rig years ago). I like watercooling but I can't stand the loud radiator (gtx 360 with ultra kazes). I mostly use it for 3d graphics, photoshop and gaming and the rig still works fine. But what drives me nuts is knowing that I'm not using the full potential of my usb 3.0 devices and ssd's. What do you guys think, should I just save my money and wait for whatever comes out next year?
    
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I bet haswell will be your mate then, you can always wait another year for everything computer related, there will always come out something better every year, but I think you can safely purchase now and not regret it, and it will be some time before anything new comes out since haswell is so fresh wink.gif

When it comes to the noise from your rad, why on earth don't you replace the fans then? Ultra kaze's are not exactly known for being silent (I had 2000rpm ones before on fan controller).
Try something like a Scythe Gentle typhoon instead, silent and good for rads! Like these: http://www.scythe-usa.com/product/acc/051/d1225c12b1ap_detail.html
Go for a 1150rpm or 1450rpm, they are among the best when it comes to performance/silence on rads!
And if the radiator is making to much noise itself, replace it with a XSPC RX series as they are the best for low rpm fans, while the Black Ice GTX series loves high rpm fans.

So in short, go for haswell with a good motherboard and replace fans with Gentle typhoon's smile.gif

And yes, watercooling will still yield you a lot better results than aircooling on CPU's like they always have, on GPU's you don't get that much more out of them really, but you get silence.
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Thanks for the quick reply. I have a fan controller and when I went below 2000 rpm I would start getting BSOD frequently. I am currently running the fans at 2000 rpm and they are still noisy. The fans cause quite a headache during the summer when my ac is running nearby. Do you know if the GTX 360 will still be good with the new cpu/ the current 3770 ect.. or a better rad with better air flow is needed for the newer rigs including haswell ?


Edit: Also the pump I currently have is: mcp655 pump

Trying to see how much money I'll need to spend.
    
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Thanks for the quick reply. I have a fan controller and when I went below 2000 rpm I would start getting BSOD frequently. I am currently running the fans at 2000 rpm and they are still noisy. The fans cause quite a headache during the summer when my ac is running nearby. Do you know if the GTX 360 will still be good with the new cpu/ the current 3770 ect.. or a better rad with better air flow is needed for the newer rigs including haswell ?


Edit: Also the pump I currently have is: mcp655 pump

Trying to see how much money I'll need to spend.

I would believe that with the new fans and a 3570/3770/4570/4770k it will be more than enough.
I know that some of the older 9xx series where quite hot, so you will probably get at least a good 4.3-4.7ghz without to high temps out of it smile.gif For reference I had almost every i7 on socket 1366.
Your pump is damn good, I use one my self, so keep that!

Try out some new fans and a new cpu first, it will probably be enough. But if you feel its to little airflow coming through the rad, you could always go for a push/pull setup (Fans on both sides if you are not familiar with it).

EDIT: Since you have a fancontroller, I would go for the 1850rpm Gentle typhoons, so you can go higher if you ever want to bench or a very hot day.
Around 1000-1200rpm these fans are almost dead silent I think, so try to keep them at that when you finally get them and see how far you can push cpu on that rpm (or how much noise you are comfortable with).
But no matter what you run them at, they will probably be a good bit more silent than your current ones.
Edited by go4life - 5/26/13 at 6:56am
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This is great, thank you. I am going to buy a bunch of those fans when I find them, they are out of stock everywhere! biggrin.gif
    
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This is great, thank you. I am going to buy a bunch of those fans when I find them, they are out of stock everywhere! biggrin.gif

My pleasure smile.gif

In stock here: http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/scge120mmsic2.html
And its on sale thumb.gif
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Btw, the ultra kazes have a higher air flow than those scythe gentle typhoon fans but when I put my hand over the ventilation where air is pushed out outside the case there is no air coming through. Do you think since these fans which are lower rpm / air flow than the ultra kazes that it might cause trouble for me and do you recommend that I look into changing the rad on the new build with a XSPC RX when upgrading to haswell and before you asks I clean the gtx 360 every 6-8 months. I know you mentioned setting up a push/pull method but honestly I think that would create way more noise even with running 5 of those gently typhoons, besides I have no idea how to go about installing it for pull action on the haf 932. Lastly if say I buy the fans now, will they be future proof with XSPC RX in case I decide to upgrade in a couple months? This is my last question, I promise thumb.gif Thanks again.
    
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Could you perhaps provide me with some pics of your case and how you have done it with both the rad and casefans?
"when I put my hand over the ventilation where air is pushed out outside the case there is no air coming through." Do you mean that you get no flow from your casefan or that you get no flow through your radiator? Either of them is bad, as you should get plenty of air, for crying out loud you are using 2000rpm beast fans, they should almost be ready for takeoff, so you have either done something wrong, or used the wrong words.

When it comes to the RX + Gentle t. its pretty much the perfect combination thumb.gif
Edited by go4life - 5/26/13 at 8:30pm
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Hey just to let you know I ordered six of those fans, going to take a while to arrive because its an international order. Anyway, I will take my system apart and clean it when the fans arrive and install 3 or 5 (pushpull) of those beauty gentle typhoons, hope everything works great and the headaches I've had since putting this rig together stop. thumb.gif Possibly when haswell arrives and I decide to either upgrade or change the rad and I'll already have 6 fans for push pull action. Thanks for all the help, if I had rep I'd give you some rolleyes.gif
    
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