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I am im so torn between all the choices and the model numbers.
I was thinking the 7970 pcb would be a better choice as it has voltage control better vrms and more than likely hyinx rams

I cant find the HIS IceQx2 on any site here exept overclockers and its near £300
I was thinking of going to scan tomorrow and seeing if I can look at the cards before buying one.
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Here's a video and dBa meter showing gigabyte:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=4EbwYga6loc#t=180s

Like I said, if the loud cooler doesn't bother you or you are just gaming and sound isn't utmost importance, it's still a great card.

If you are a gamer I'd either go with the Sapphire if you want a quiet, cheap card, MSI if you want more overclock options (ie memory voltage), Gigabyte if you want hynix RAM ie GPGPU work in open case environment/replaced cooler and loud doesnt matter (they are all loud at 100% anyways).
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I am im so torn between all the choices and the model numbers.
I was thinking the 7970 pcb would be a better choice as it has voltage control better vrms and more than likely hyinx rams

I cant find the HIS IceQx2 on any site here exept overclockers and its near £300
I was thinking of going to scan tomorrow and seeing if I can look at the cards before buying one.

7970 PCB doesn't really make it 'better'... ie Asus dc2 v2 has better VRM on 7950 PCB. 7970 PCB is zero indication of hynix, i dont know where you got that impression... I specifically said both the Vapor-X and HIS IceQx2 ship with elpida nowadays.

If you can actually check the cards in person at some store before buying, and get hynix, that'd be cool. 7950s tend to be locked up though, so even then I'm not so sure you can do that. Well I suppose you can ask, if you insist they should let you open up $1000 of graphics cards on the table haha.

It's really a matter of how important is loud/quiet for you, and what else is important in a card for you. Also, price, you might find one of the less desirable models be at a desirable price. If you are replacing the cooler then simply decide whether you want hynix ram, memory voltage control... or just price (if something is cheaper than TF3 and gigabyte). If you are replacing the cooler, you probably dont care about the cooler or how loud/quiet the fans on it are, and if all you are doing is gaming then all of them will have adequate coolers that won't be too loud (still, some will be quieter than others).
Edited by Belial - 5/27/13 at 9:02am
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Originally Posted by richie_2010 View Post


could someone help me find a 7950 with either a 7970 pcb or reference 7950 pcb with voltage support and hyinx memory

I was looking at this

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-msi-radeon-hd-7950-overclocked-5000mhz-gddr5-830mhz-1792-cores-dldvi-i-hdmi-2x-mini-dp-plusfree-

but people recommended the frozer3

I just want to get decent price to quality ratio im not bothered so much about cooling as I was going to use my bracket with a h60 (after I mod it) to cool the gpu and find some ram and vrm coolers

sorry im in the uk and use scan ebuyer amazon and overclockers,

if you are going to do a H60 mod then the card you chose is fine. its built on a reference HD 7950 PCB.

also sometimes its safer to go for a higher clocked card to make sure in case you get a dud overclocker you still have good stock perf. MSI HD 7950 TF3 OC BE has 880 mhz core with 960 mhz boost. unlocked voltage. reference HD 7950 PCB.

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-msi-radeon-hd7950-twin-frozr-oc-be-5000mhz-gddr5-gpu-880mhz-1792-cores-dvi-hdmi-mdportplusfree-g
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I'm considering a Club 3D 7950. I've seen it priced at around 260EUR, and based on TTL's review, it has great overclocking potential.
post #55 of 311
your right im most likey being to picky in my choices.
Ill just get this one
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-msi-radeon-hd-7950-overclocked-5000mhz-gddr5-830mhz-1792-cores-dldvi-i-hdmi-2x-mini-dp-plusfree-
for £210 and change the cooler and be done with it think this one has voltage unlocked and reference 7950 aswell

I was thinking they might have some out on display in cases or something to at least see before I made my choice.
Edited by richie_2010 - 5/27/13 at 9:16am
post #56 of 311
Nice info on the ASUS boards.

Constructive criticism:I like the premise of this guide, but the detail leaves things to be desired. Plus anyone that hasn't been on OCN will read this and think you're a very angry person. tongue.gif You could have wrote "The motivation for this guide" or something instead of "Who is Belial"

I agree with you on VRM heatsinks. Maybe you could provide links to places you can buy low profile heatsinks that are as good or better than the MSI / Sapphire plate ("form in one"). VRM heatsinks are what? $5-10 or something so I think PCB , voltage control, and VRM quality are far more important.

As far as fan sizing, isn't it 92mm, not 90mm?

Expanding on the guide:

I think differentiation of Sapphire models is a really important thing. You're probably missing Vapor-X (on purpose?) too.

There's 2 Powercolor PCS+ by the way: AX7950 3GBD5-2DHPP , AX7950 3GBD5-2DHPPV3 (boost) which may or may not be the same other than the OC.

Powercolor is also the other major reference HD7950 Boost supplier with AX7950 3GBD5-2DHV4E (has UEFI) and AX7950 3GBD5-2DHV4 (no UEFI). There's also Powercolor AX7950 3GBD5-2DH reference (non-Boost).

Visontek also makes a reference HD7950 (and MSI / HIS).

That said, I am eager to see the final result of this guide smile.gif
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post #57 of 311
Speaking of VRM cooling, here is a very nice mod someone did for their TFIII 7950.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1372912/the-msi-tf3-vrm-project-with-accelero-xtreme-7970/0_20

I'm strongly considering doing this myself.
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Quote:
This is a 2.5slot card, but isn't significantly cooler than a Dual-X. New ones come with Elpida instead of Hynix. It uses a 7970 PCB with an 8+8 pin pci-e power connections.

Core Voltage: Yes
Memory Voltage: Yes
Memory: Hynix/Elpida
PCB: 7970
Fans 2x90mm
VRM Heatsink: Dedicated
Cooler: Great
This isn't true.

The 7950 VaporX uses a custom PCB not a 7970 PCB. The reference 7970 has 8+6 pin where the new VaporX has 8+8 (original was 8+6).

Also the original VaporX had Elpida ram whereas later models all use Hynix.
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post #60 of 311
I think this guide is misguiding and misleading.

Many information is not true.

And when you see a Guide about AMD HD 7950 (2012) with some 8 years old Green Nvidia Geforce cards in the OP you notice that something is wrong with the guide and you question twice the credibility of it.

@Belial, your intentions are wonderful, but maybe you should be 100% sure of the information in there before posting it.
Edited by KaRLiToS - 5/27/13 at 11:21am
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