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Originally Posted by KaRLiToS View Post

And when you see a Guide about AMD HD 7950 (2012) with some 8 years old Green Nvidia Geforce cards in the OP you notice that something is wrong with the guide and you question twice the credibility of it.

Are people still not getting that it's a joke?
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Gaming is hardly 'real world' performance, and any GPU is going to stay cool if all you do is game.

Don't be silly. The temps seen while gaming (particular gaming w/o vsync, in a non-bottlenecked scenario) is exactly what 98% of the people who'd ever be reading this thread consider to be 'real world performance'.

You sort-of undermine your 'authority' on the subject when you say something like that, no offense. redface.gif

Also, please make note of the removals I made to that post, and avoid repeating the same mistakes wink.gif

And if there is a general consensus that something in the OP is in error, I will be expecting the OP to be updated to reflect the correct info. Make sense?
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Are people still not getting that it's a joke?

Some people from the web might happen on this thread and go *** is wrong with the people on OCN.

Also I disagree with his OP that gaming is not real world performance.

If he posted folding/BOINC performance it'd be real world performance but that doesn't reflect what most people buy these cards for outside of that which shall not be named. wink.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
It really damages the credibility when scrypt or SHA256 are mentioned.

Nobody buys a Gaming card for SystemCompute C++, CLBenchmark , Luxmark (luxrender isn't that big), RatGPU, or BasemarkCL smile.gif
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You know guys, this is Belial's guide. It is not an official OCN guide by any means, since that's what the official HD7900 series club is for. I found some of his information useful, since I didn't use my 7970 for gaming back when I had it. Although the GeForce 7950GX2 pictures are somewhat troubling when we're discussing AMD cards though.........

Basically, all I'm saying, is play nicely. smile.gif There's no reason to bash somebody on the internet (especially here). If you disagree with some of the things he's posted in his thread, then offer your advice to help.
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exactly, plus he keeps talking bout low voltage but I am at 1.15v idle not the 1.03 or whatever he keeps talking about. i'm not trying to knock on gpgpu but that is a niche group, most people don't go into buying video cards worrying about folding numbers, cuda cores, or hUMA ... I don't, I just want to kick ass gaming rig that will get awesome graphics.



edit: hmm didn't quote the post I selected
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You know guys, this is Belial's guide. It is not an official OCN guide by any means, since that's what the official HD7900 series club is for. I found some of his information useful, since I didn't use my 7970 for gaming back when I had it. Although the GeForce 7950GX2 pictures are somewhat troubling when we're discussing AMD cards though.........

Basically, all I'm saying, is play nicely. smile.gif There's no reason to bash somebody on the internet (especially here). If you disagree with some of the things he's posted in his thread, then offer your advice to help.

I agree, but he is spreading some false info ... or at least info that may apply only a few "bad" cards or maybe my card didn't see his post so it doesn't play with his "observation". my card stayed cool 1.25v (don't remember the OC settings I was using at the time, I just run a mild OC as that's all I need).
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also sometimes its safer to go for a higher clocked card to make sure in case you get a dud overclocker you still have good stock perf. MSI HD 7950 TF3 OC BE has 880 mhz core with 960 mhz boost. unlocked voltage. reference HD 7950 PCB.

Sorry, I don't agree with this advice at all. No matter how bad your card is as an overclocker, all of them will do 1ghz, which is still a good 50mhz beyond the 'fastest' 7950 at stock sold.

Worst case scenario your card can only do 1050mhz and that's only with a low voltage and only using an extremely aggressive stress test. Picking a card based on stock frequency is the stupidest thing you can do.
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I'm considering a Club 3D 7950. I've seen it priced at around 260EUR, and based on TTL's review, it has great overclocking potential.

Yes, that's the problem. Every 7950 review says they have 'great overclocking potential' and is just an awesome card. They are all useless, glowing reviews.

Also, the 7950 itself is a great overclocking chip. That says nothing about the specific model in question. I've never heard of Club 3D but I'd really be careful buying a Club 3D card. You know nothing about how good it is as a model - what PCB it uses, what RAM it uses, memory and core voltage, and how good the cooler is (im sure the cooler is okay with 2x90mm fans though).
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Belial, like I said, I really appreciate your intentions.

But personnally, I wouldn't post a guide when I don't know what I am talking about.

This is a thread you started two weeks ago. http://www.overclock.net/t/1390291/which-7950-to-buy-dual-x-is-junk-gigabyte-vs-dual-x-vs-tf3/0_30

I wouldn't link anybody to this guide, especially with Geforce Cards in the op.



^^^^ This is NVDIA Geforce 7950GX2 cards , released in 2006. Not AMD HD 7950. Its stacked PCB, c'mon.
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Thank for this guide! I wonder, you said that 7950s (boost) run at 1,25V; but mine is at 0,993V in Afterburner.

It's an original MSi R7950 (bought in march 2012) : http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/HD_7950_Twin_Frozr_III/images/front.jpg (this one PCB)
Is there something wrong here as going to 1,25-1,3V is just too hot for my taste thumb.gif
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