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fieldsweeper- i already have the HD covered i have a 1tb 7200 rpm seagate barracuda. from the reviews i read and my limited amount of knowledge this seamed to be a good drive for the money. I also have the psu covered with my 650 watt unit that originally came with my computer. I would like to stay with a mini atx board since money is a factor and like i said this is my first build and im doing it more for the experience the bigger builds will come later once i understand all of the little nuances that i dont get now.

monte71- ya i know the boat your stuck in. i cant afford to mod cars anymore so im moving on to computers and figured i would start with the one my dad built for me back in 06. its been very reliable and have never had any issues. good luck to you



thanks everyone for the info. I guess im just gonna start searching mobos and go from there.

Then you will not be able to "upgrade" much, you may see what the fastest ram that board can use, and upgrade a notch. and the CPU, I guess get the fastest one for that board. again, I am not sure just how much you can do. (and maybe overclock a bit if its not an OEM motherboard but get a new cooler)

the HD, is not going to be an upgrade. in space yes. but if you want to make your computer faster get an SSD and put the OS on it.

buying a bigger HDD, will not really give you a noticeable speed boost. an SSD is a huge difference IF that board even has SATA 6 ports.

I am telling you that at the level your old computer is at, the only thing that will give you a noticable speed boost is an SSD. unless you get into upgrading more components.


EDIT: I see you are limited y that board to sata 3 frown.gif that is unfortunate. either take the 150 and get another AMD board / CPU, try to add a liitle more if you can.

if not get an SSD. for 150 that is a guaranteed faster improvement. keep in mind you will need to re install the OS, if the OS is on a drive bigger than the new SSD. (cannot clone a bigger drive to a smaller drive) unless you really know what you are doing. but a new mobo you would need to do so as well.


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Hello all and hello Bryan. I am also a newbie from a couple of states over and running an old AM2 board. Maybe we can learn some of this stuff together. I noticed that my athlon 2 x2 4600+ was getting a lot warmer than it used to.. 55C idle and the cpu heatsink/fan that came with this thing was noisy as hell anyway. So, without much thinking, I decided to get a new cpu for this motherboard but only because it accepts some am3 socket cpu's, if you flash the bios (a new one for me, but at least it was successful). I have a GA-M57SLI-S4 (Not sure if that's how you do a link, like I said, a NOOB! smile.gif So anyway, I opted for an AMD Athlon II X3 450 (3.2 ghz). I figured, 1 more core and the possibility of unlocking the 4th, good enough for me. So, I got the new cpu and fan and watched some videos on youtube as I've never replaced a cpu before. Turns out I can't use the fan that came with the cpu because the square heatsink mounting bracket was not on my motherboard. The old noisy ass fan used a back plate on the other side of the motherboard (grrr). So I decided, this new fan looks cheap and it's probably noisy anyway lets get a new heatsink/fan... yay more research! So yesterday I ordered a Cool Master GeminII. I figured maybe I could push this cpu a little harder with a good fan and get some extra years out of this AM2, which is how I got here. So now, what should have been an easy cpu FAN swap has turned into a complete dis-assembly of my computer... Well, now that I've done a little more research and the motherboard (and everything else) is completely out of the case, I should have just purchased a new AM3+ mother board and cpu and ram... :|

But anyway, the main reason I made this post was because the mother board that Fieldsweeper suggested, (ASUS M5A78L-M/USB3 AM3+) has a PCI express 2.0 x16 instead of 3.0 and Sata 3Gb/s instead of 6Gb/s. I think I would go with something a little better than that. But the $150 you were planning on spending for just an AM2 cpu is going to be pushed pretty hard since you would need a new motherboard/cpu/ram.

Good luck in whatever you decide to do and I look forward to seeing your posts in the future. Unlike you, I'm kind of stuck with this AM2 board now, but I'm not a heavy gamer or anything like that either so, maybe just some light overclocking for me.

Monte

about the PCI 2.0 as opposed to 3.0, no GPU that I know of yet takes full advantage of the increased speed/bandwidth and even using 2.0 an 3.0 card can be placed in there. so unless you plan on buying a gtx 680, and possibly going SLI, then 2.0 is fine ESPECIALLY for a budget built.
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Fieldsweeper- I think we have a misunderstanding. I was saying that I know I need a new mobo. I would like to stay with. Mini atx form factor like I have now. If this wasn't a misunderstanding and mini atx mobo are bad then please let me know
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Fieldsweeper- I think we have a misunderstanding. I was saying that I know I need a new mobo. I would like to stay with. Mini atx form factor like I have now. If this wasn't a misunderstanding and mini atx mobo are bad then please let me know
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Fieldsweeper- I think we have a misunderstanding. I was saying that I know I need a new mobo. I would like to stay with. Mini atx form factor like I have now. If this wasn't a misunderstanding and mini atx mobo are bad then please let me know
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Fieldsweeper- I think we have a misunderstanding. I was saying that I know I need a new mobo. I would like to stay with. Mini atx form factor like I have now. If this wasn't a misunderstanding and mini atx mobo are bad then please let me know
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Fieldsweeper- I think we have a misunderstanding. I was saying that I know I need a new mobo. I would like to stay with. Mini atx form factor like I have now. If this wasn't a misunderstanding and mini atx mobo are bad then please let me know
post #18 of 19
@Fieldsweeper - Thanks for clarifying. I was more concerned with the Sata 3 instead of Sata 6. I will consider buying an SSD for my self as you seem to think that's a good way to go (although I'm on Sata 3).

@boost - What was that? I didn't see your post tongue.gif
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Ya my phone decided to go all stupid and post that like 5 times
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