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I'm not sure what you mean, AMD APU's already support DX11? The new consoles are built with AMD APU's lol. In the next 3-5 years Desktop APU's will be powerful enough for a lot gamers to not bother with buying a separate dedicated GPU.

I saw saying that games will also require much more powerful hardware when they're ported from the PS4 and Xbox One, instead of PS3 and Xbox 360.

Also, typically DX11 requires more powerful hardware to use than the DX9 simply because of the additional graphic effects DX11 allows.
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I saw saying that games will also require much more powerful hardware when they're ported from the PS4 and Xbox One, instead of PS3 and Xbox 360.

Also, typically DX11 requires more powerful hardware to use than the DX9 simply because of the additional graphic effects DX11 allows.

The 'next gen' consoles haven't even arrived yet, there already pretty outdated in terms of tech. AMD and Intel's APU's will evolve massively over next few years, while the PS4 / Xbox One will remain stagnant. My prediction is that within 3-5 years they will be on par with consoles and good enough for most PC gamers by then. Small factor PC's will be more popular with everything integrated into the APU and Mobo with DDR5 support..
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The 'next gen' consoles haven't even arrived yet, there already pretty outdated in terms of tech. AMD and Intel's APU's will evolve massively over next few years, while the PS4 / Xbox One will remain stagnant. My prediction is that within 3-5 years they will be on par with consoles and good enough for most PC gamers by then. Small factor PC's will be more popular with everything integrated into the APU and Mobo with DDR5 support..

It doesnt mean jack if they arent as powerful in terms of raw power, direct access to the hardware to take advantage of it is leaps and bounds ahead of what PC/driver etc. can muster.

Also, intel and amd are pretty much trolling for cash if you ask me, all these CPU's just keep pouring out just like the latest cards, yet there are almost no games that utilize them nor are there devs who code properly for PC hardware capabilities.

Its a console age unfortunately, not that the new ones will be bad, im actually pretty keen to see what they can do, it means win win for everyone if console games look like what PC should right now, and i think they will.

I'll pick up a ps4 if there are some decent games for it, i always liked having the ps3 there and my main PC for games, best of both worlds.
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The 'next gen' consoles haven't even arrived yet, there already pretty outdated in terms of tech. AMD and Intel's APU's will evolve massively over next few years, while the PS4 / Xbox One will remain stagnant. My prediction is that within 3-5 years they will be on par with consoles and good enough for most PC gamers by then. Small factor PC's will be more popular with everything integrated into the APU and Mobo with DDR5 support..

-Native 7-8 core support because of the CPU's design? Check.
-Built to run on a GPU equivalent to the 7790 (Xbox One) and 7850+ (PS4)? Check.
-Designed to use 5 GB of RAM (Xbox One) and 7 GB of RAM (PS4)? Check.

Now throw in 10%-30% performance increase because there is less software layers that the games have to operate through.

Also, if you compare the console games from early 2006 to now, you'll notice a major difference in quality. That because the developers had 8 years to optimize on two standardized PCs.
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The 'next gen' consoles haven't even arrived yet, there already pretty outdated in terms of tech. AMD and Intel's APU's will evolve massively over next few years, while the PS4 / Xbox One will remain stagnant. My prediction is that within 3-5 years they will be on par with consoles and good enough for most PC gamers by then. Small factor PC's will be more popular with everything integrated into the APU and Mobo with DDR5 support..

they can sell upgraded consoles all what they have to do is replace one chip on production model much like PCs.... and MUCH easier then with previous architectures...
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they can sell upgraded consoles all what they have to do is replace one chip on production model much like PCs.... and MUCH easier then with previous architectures...

But that would break optimizations that developers did, and they already sunk enough money into R&D and manufacturing.
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they can sell upgraded consoles all what they have to do is replace one chip on production model much like PCs.... and MUCH easier then with previous architectures...

No they cant.... That will create fragmentation.
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Anyone looking at the 3dmark scores of haswell should know that intel drivers are absolute crap when it comes to playing games. In synthetic tests it is just as good as AMD, but once you play a game you realize the drivers are just not where they need to be.
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Anyone looking at the 3dmark scores of haswell should know that intel drivers are absolute crap when it comes to playing games. In synthetic tests it is just as good as AMD, but once you play a game you realize the drivers are just not where they need to be.

Intel drivers are crap at playing games? Have you been huffing paint? Games are one of the few areas where intel has the lead mainly because current games rarely make use of more than 4 cores. once these new consoles hit the market though that may well change since the devs are already coding for 8 core AMD chips porting to PC should be fairly easy.
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Intel drivers are crap at playing games? Have you been huffing paint? Games are one of the few areas where intel has the lead mainly because current games rarely make use of more than 4 cores. once these new consoles hit the market though that may well change since the devs are already coding for 8 core AMD chips porting to PC should be fairly easy.

He talks about gpu drivers. And the intel gpu drivers are crap.
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