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So many pessimistic views.

Try thinking of the benefits.

Nobody here can fathom trying something new
There's a world of difference in being an early adopter and just pro-change whatever the change is. If something doesn't seem valuable or sensible, why adopt? I see no uses for this in the gaming context whatsoever.

I would love to see how would you implement three additional computational units (be it CPU or GPU) through as low bandwidth and high latency ridden interface as ethernet onto something as high bandwidth and low latency as graphics/physics/AI in games. The underprovisioned infrastructure, tens of milliseconds of latency, and for most people in the US; restricted amount of bandwidth make this inherently unrealistic. Seems very much like a marketing gimmick until they provide us a concrete usage scenario involving it. Well, maybe it gives us a dry laugh, you can log each virtual console to it's own Twitter account! biggrin.gif
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The 4x power cannot be used to its full extent. Unless there is extreeeeeemely fast and stable internet it can only do some stuff but everything with regarding input needs to be instant so in the XBONE as well. This is going to be laggy as something else.
 
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So now all games will have a sticker on it saying required cloud connection..... so i guess the xbox one in itself doesnt require a connection to play but all the games will require an internet connection... even if its only singleplayer.
    
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after 3 years EA/MS whoever stops supporting game servers and the game will not work anymore as the necessary calculation (i am kidding, nothing is being computed on server side aside drm) wont function anymore. so welcome to 21 century aka as era of hostageware

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sinp

God you are so misinformed. Both sony and ms are using some type of DRM on their next console.
And now you are added to my block list as Misinformed Fanboy Revro




Getting extra power from the cloud is wrong in some way? Don't like it don't buy it. Simple as that.
Also who says there isn't a option for turning the feature off if you don't have a connection meant for those types of things.
Plenty of people have perfectly fine internet. Internet also isn't going to stay put over the next 10 years ether.

Online Live is cloud gaming and it works, Using some of the tech behind that and improve upon it and who said it wouldn't help?

Think about skies, grass and trees in the background, and background data. All this could be cloud powered one day, doesn't mean we will see games like this now.


If paying for xbox live means better game graphics, dedicated servers, and all the features already added as well as more to come. Then paying for all that would make a lot more sense then paying for live now on the 360.
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Thats funny last time I checked Steam was DRM at the fullest, and you can't sell your used games at all.
If your going to get rid of the need for Discs then tell me what is a better way to avoid piracy? Though if there end up truly being a fee to sell used games then that is something I really wouldn't agree with, though I hear Sony might be giving the same rights to the publishers. Disc's are so 2000s, having a system at place that allows you to never need to a Disc would be perfect.
For the people who have data caps? Just f us off is that your opinion?
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For the people who have data caps? Just f us off is that your opinion?

They are still offering Discs for those with Data Caps, just like steam does (at least on major titles).
They are still giving you the ability to sell your used games, Steam does not.

The ability to need the disc after it is install on your console/pc is quite cumbersome. Not only do you take the risk of wearing down your disc drive laser, but you take risks on scratching the disc itself. Also Disc drive noise mad.gif

I know a couple of PS3 users that their disc drive no longer reads discs, they pretty much had to rebuy their most played games from the PSN store. This won't happen with the new model, disc drive stops working 4 years down the road you still have your game collection and you can still buy any new game from the internet.


Those with Data caps are perfectly fine. For cloud computing that is a feature you can most likely turn on and off and can probably auto detect your connection.
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They are still offering Discs for those with Data Caps, just like steam does (at least on major titles).
They are still giving you the ability to sell your used games, Steam does not.

The ability to need the disc after it is install on your console/pc is quite cumbersome. Not only do you take the risk of wearing down your disc drive laser, but you take risks on scratching the disc itself. Also Disc drive noise mad.gif

I know a couple of PS3 users that their disc drive no longer reads discs, they pretty much had to rebuy their most played games from the PSN store. This won't happen with the new model, disc drive stops working 4 years down the road you still have your game collection and you can still buy any new game from the internet.


Those with Data caps are perfectly fine. For cloud computing that is a feature you can most likely turn on and off and can probably auto detect your connection.
I get 100GB a month shared among 6 people, I need discs, i can't sit there downloading a gig a day, if my whole family did that our data would be done in 15 days. The day the Australian Broadband network comes to my area i'm going to be the happiest man alive and also, a DVD-RW drive costed me $20(AUS) 1 hour of work.
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I get 100GB a month shared among 6 people, I need discs, i can't sit there downloading a gig a day, if my whole family did that our data would be done in 15 days. The day the Australian Broadband network comes to my area i'm going to be the happiest man alive and also, a DVD-RW drive costed me $20(AUS) 1 hour of work.

And that is one of the reason why discs will still be there for those that need them.

Just that once the game is installed onto the console's hard drive you no longer need to put them into the console to play the game.

You can go from playing "insert game title here" to "insert game title here" without having to swap discs as long as you already used the disc to install the game.


Same thing goes for steam if you need to use discs
go to the store, buy the game
pop the game disc in your PC
Active the code on steam and install with the game disc
There you now have steam game without using data

Only thing is you can't sell your used steam games.


Though even your internet will get better over the next 5 years
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