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People are so silly, cant they see Microsoft are planning to launch skynet???
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Well their engineers should all be fired. They just put a bunch of points of failure into their console. (I am considering not being able to play the game as intended a failure, and it is)

If and big IF, we had a consistent and strong internet infrastructure to all parts of the world, then yes MAYBE this would work. We don't however, people over here in reality often times have slow DSL/Satellite/Cable internet options. Hell, there are even some people that are still having to use dialup to get their internet. This is a stupid assumption on their part.
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Am I the only one who thinks cloud based anything is the lazy way out?
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Well their engineers should all be fired. They just put a bunch of points of failure into their console. (I am considering not being able to play the game as intended a failure, and it is)

If and big IF, we had a consistent and strong internet infrastructure to all parts of the world, then yes MAYBE this would work. We don't however, people over here in reality often times have slow DSL/Satellite/Cable internet options. Hell, there are even some people that are still having to use dialup to get their internet. This is a stupid assumption on their part.
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1. gamemakers have to design for 1 set of hardware anyway and optimize for it and they have to consider the lowest common denominator in terms of latency
2. difference in latency would make it harder to optimize games
3. everything is capped at 30fps for every game anyway
4. you can't change graphical settings anyway

even if such a thing did exist (worldwide fiber internet), points 3 and 4 guarantee that it would guarantee that it would still be pointless to do.

console games are designed for certain hardware, to run at at set graphical settings, at a set number of fps. the fact ms even tries to pull this on consumers suggests they believe we fundamentally don't even understand what a console is
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So people without internet won't be able to play games because 3/4 of the calculation will be in the cloud? Sounds cheap.
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So people without internet won't be able to play games because 3/4 of the calculation will be in the cloud? Sounds cheap.

Sounds false, and a way to do damage control after several websites have appointed the technical superiority of the PS4.
   
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Yes...I have steam account...with a pretty extensive gam library to boot...but guess what ..steam has this wonderful thing called a "offline mode"...where the games you downloaded continue to work.. (unlese some other drm is also put in play...like uplay)....so sorry Microsoft. ..this is lazy pathetic and outright greedy...between this and windows 8...I hope you have a VERY rocky next couple of years financially speaking that is...that is th only way you morons are going to learn..
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Meh, just a way to force DRM.


All the latency won't help. And the infrastructure would be on high demand areas ('merica). All small countries and locations in "dark places" will not be getting decent servers for this.
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Let me get this straight:

Developers can't always program for multi-core CPUs, release games that work reliably for multiple hardware configurations, have proper multiplayer code that doesn't cause desyncs or lag and yet - adding another layer of hardware and software in game processing is somehow going to make everything better?

I mean, if certain game don't even run properly on a single computer, how are they going to run on 4 - with 3 of them virtualized over the internet, no less?
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Let me get this straight:

Developers can't always program for multi-core CPUs, release games that work reliably for multiple hardware configurations, have proper multiplayer code that doesn't cause desyncs or lag and yet - adding another layer of hardware and software in game processing is somehow going to make everything better?

I mean, if certain game don't even run properly on a single computer, how are they going to run on 4 - with 3 of them virtualized over the internet, no less?

It isn't literally three VMs, they're just (supposedly) allocating the processing power or resources of three consoles. Silly metric to use, but hey, that's PR guys for you.

Its not unthinkable, just not very useful in 99% of cases. Maybe a few exclusive titles will use it, guess we'll see.
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