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Windows XP will give you the best options for compatible software. If you can justify any costs with XP do that. If not id also recommend Ubuntu, free and easy to learn. You may however run into issues if sites require IE/Silverlight or if they need to use products like MS Office (I know there are similar programs, similar being the operative word). As these will be used for training you want them to be able to train on software that matters in the business world, almost all of which would require windows.
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Windows XP will give you the best options for compatible software.
A lot of software is fazing out XP support so I wouldn't even say XP gives you the most compatibility in Windows - let alone across every OS on the planet.
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If you can justify any costs with XP do that. If not id also recommend Ubuntu, free and easy to learn. You may however run into issues if sites require IE/Silverlight
Unless you like in South Korea or Love Film' crappy streaming service (and I say "crappy" because the video quality and movie selection is just awful) is your OS benchmark, then you'd be right. But these days IE is the one trying to gain compatibility with the other browsers and Silverlight is a depreciated project anyway (which is why Netflix et al are switching to HTML5 like rats deserting a sinking ship)
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or if they need to use products like MS Office (I know there are similar programs, similar being the operative word). As these will be used for training you want them to be able to train on software that matters in the business world, almost all of which would require windows.
I doubt anyone intelligent enough to be on a forum like this would be retarded enough not to cope with Microsoft Office without hours of practice time.
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A lot of software is fazing out XP support so I wouldn't even say XP gives you the most compatibility in Windows - let alone across every OS on the planet.
Unless you like in South Korea or Love Film' crappy streaming service (and I say "crappy" because the video quality and movie selection is just awful) is your OS benchmark, then you'd be right. But these days IE is the one trying to gain compatibility with the other browsers and Silverlight is a depreciated project anyway (which is why Netflix et al are switching to HTML5 like rats deserting a sinking ship)
I doubt anyone intelligent enough to be on a forum like this would be retarded enough not to cope with Microsoft Office without hours of practice time.

Im sorry you couldnt keep up, let me spell it out for you. The OP wanted a free OS (or as he stated he can get Win XP as well) then the choices are basically Windows XP or Linux...out of the 2 which do you think has better compatibility with Windows software?

You obviously dont work in IT, most companies are using outdated IE browsers because their internal sites, not to mention Sharepoint, will only work fully with IE (some require IE). As you mentioned plenty of consumer sites are moving to HTML5, in my work i have yet to see a single company moving its internal intranet to only HTML5. Not to mention they are planning to move to, aka havent moved yet.

Your last sentence isnt even English i wont address it. The point for the OP was that if the people who will be using these for training are likely going to want software that the companies they are training to hopefully get jobs at use. Ill bet those companies havent large scale deployed Ubuntu and LibreOffice.

PS - to the OP, you can thank this guy that ill be unsubscribing from this topic.
post #14 of 14
*sigh* why do some people think the internet is a free pass to talk to their peers like they're dirt?rolleyes.gif anyway....
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Im sorry you couldnt keep up, let me spell it out for you.The OP wanted a free OS (or as he stated he can get Win XP as well) then the choices are basically Windows XP or Linux...out of the 2 which do you think has better compatibility with Windows software?
Yes, but Linux also has better compatibility for Linux software. So your Windows stipulation is arbitrary and flawed since all the stuff he listed was pretty generic stuff. However let's also go back to my point about how the stuff he's listing relies heavily on standards which are always advancing and which XP is already starting to fall behind on (eg IE on XP doesn't support SNI because the version of TLS bundled with XP doesn't support it). And for that reason, I struggle to agree that a depreciated platform has better support than the latest version of whichever desktop Linux distro floats your boat. In fact I think recommending XP for anything like that is a touch short-sighted. If Windows is a *must*, then I'd recommend contacting Microsoft and asking if they can donate some Win7 / Win8 licences for charity over installing XP (and given the nature of the OPs project and how keen Microsoft are in locking future generations into their platform - as seen by the massive discounts that eduction and developing countries get - I think the OP might stand a reasonable chance of a decent discount).
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You obviously dont work in IT, most companies are using outdated IE browsers because their internal sites, not to mention Sharepoint, will only work fully with IE (some require IE). As you mentioned plenty of consumer sites are moving to HTML5, in my work i have yet to see a single company moving its internal intranet to only HTML5. Not to mention they are planning to move to, aka havent moved yet.
Actually I've worked with local government in porting their IE5/6 dependant code to web standards (though not HTML5 specifically - but at least away from vendor specific code). So I'm well versed in this subject. Most organisations I've seen have now moved away from the IE6 dependency though (on their workstations at least - kiosks and thin clients are a different story). They've had to because that in itself has locked them into a decade old OS and a horrible browser. Just the shear number of security issues with that alone is reason enough to upgrade their internal sites.

But this is all moot anyway as the OP is after something for an IT suite for underprivileged kids. This isn't for some corporate network with legacy portals written in IE6 specific code.

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Your last sentence isnt even English i wont address it.
oh get you being the forum troll rolleyes.gif
I could post something equally insulting and we can both act like dicks in this thread if you want, but it wont help anyone if we do. So how about you drop this obnoxious attitude of yours and chat to me like I deserve smile.gif
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The point for the OP was that if the people who will be using these for training are likely going to want software that the companies they are training to hopefully get jobs at use. Ill bet those companies havent large scale deployed Ubuntu and LibreOffice.
As it so happens, I do know a few companies that run LibreOffice over MS Office. But regardless, you're not getting my point that MS Office is designed to be usable even by idiots. So all these people really need training on is concepts rather than vendor specifics. ie teach them how to use a spreadsheet and they'll know how to use nearly any spreadsheet (be that LibreOffice Calc, Excel, Google Docs, or whatever). But teach them how to use Excel specifically and they'll never understand how to use other applications and also get completely stuck the next time MS decide to re-jig Excels UI.

And since you keep bringing up that this is training for the corporate environment; no sane company lets their employees fiddle with the OS on their workstations. So it doesn't matter if these students are running Windows, Linux, OS X or even Haiku - it's just a host platform to run the educational application suites.
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PS - to the OP, you can thank this guy that ill be unsubscribing from this topic.
Why the melodrama? I wasn't rude, I haven't trolled nor hounded you. All I did was post an alternative perspective. You're making it impossible to hold a mature conversation. frown.gif
Edited by Plan9 - 7/19/13 at 9:46am
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