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Hey All,

My name is Bill and I’m gearing up for my first “major” computer build in a while. First off, I just want to say this forum has been infinitely helpful in helping me learn the ins-and-outs of liquid cooling. Hopefully, I don’t show my ignorance by any of the questions of oversights in my setup. I was hoping I could get feedback on my setup and find out if there’s anything I’m missing/not taking into account.

Hardware Components:
Case: CoolerMaster HAF-932 Advanced HAF-942 X Blue Addition
Motherboard: ASUS Maximus V Extreme
Processor: Intel i7-3770K
GPU: GeForce GTX Titan GeForce GTX 780
SSD: Intel 520 Series 180 GB
HDD: Western Digital Velociraptor (1TB)
Memory: 16 GB (2x8 GB) Corsair Dominator Platinum G.Skill Trident X 2400 Mhz
Power Supply: Corsair AX1200i
Disc: ASUS Blu-ray Burner (BW-14D1XT)


Liquid Cooling Components:
Radiator: XSPC AX360 Radiator
Reservoir: XSPC Dual 5.25” Split Bay Reservoir
Thermal Compound: ARCTIC MX-4
Antimicrobial: 1 silver kill coil
CPU Block: XSPC Special Edition Copper Block
GPU Block: XSPC Razor GTX690 Block TBD
Pumps: Swiftech MCP655TM Laing D5 Vario Pump (2)
Pump Tops: XSPC Multiport Acetal (2)
Tubing: Koolance UV-reactive 1/2” inner diameter/ 5/8” outer diameter tubing
Fittings: Compression

Additional:
Logisys CLK12 12” Cold Cathode Dual Tube Kit
CoolerMaster SickleFlow 120mm (6, for push-pull configuration on the radiator)

First up, the MoBo, CPU, and GPU (and associated cooling components) are at this point place-holders until the new Intel Haswell chips come out (if they’re worth it to upgrade to).

My first round of questions are as follows:
1. Do I need to buy any type of anti-corrosive additive (I’m using water, no special coolants) to add to my loop, or will all my cooling components play well with one another
2. I’m a little unclear as to whether or not I need a speed controller. Can the temperature sensors on the motherboard regulate the pumps by themselves? Is it worth it to buy one?
3. Similarly, as my pumps are variable pumps, would I plug those into some of the fan headers on my motherboard? And if so, will I be able to control their speed using the motherboard’s fan management software?
4. I currently envision my setup to have 2 independent loops, one each for the GPU and CPU. Should there be anything in particular I need to worry about? I’ve got a split reservoir and 2 pumps, so I thought that should be plenty. My loop goes from the reservoir and into the radiator, and then splits to the independent blocks, and then merges.
5. Is it worth it to cool the chipset on my MoBo? I haven’t been able to find much about people who have liquid-cooled the chipset on my board, and I feel like it may be overkill. Anyone’s thoughts on this? Know of any companies that sell blocks for the chipset?
Edited by BigOlBilliam - 5/27/13 at 9:34am
post #2 of 24
Welcome to OCN.
I have moved this thread to the water cooling section as the new members section is not for questions.
post #3 of 24
Thread Starter 
Oops, sorry about that. Thought I moved it to the right place.

Bill
post #4 of 24
I only see the one 360 radiator, how do you plan to have two loops? Im not a pump expert but my mcp655 has a dial directly on the pump that controls RPM, im not sure if the model you posted is the same.
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Good catch. I forgot to mention that my loops join from the reservoir to form one intake into the radiator, and then split at the radiator's outtake to form the separate CPU and GPU loops. Does that follow? Think it might be better to just use a single-bank reservoir?
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Yeah i would say to just use a single res/single bay res and a single D5. With only two waterblocks i think most everyone would agree 2 pumps is unnecessary.
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Personally, I'd drop the Titan to a 780, and switch over to a 3930k and Rampage IV Formula/Extreme. You may consider G.SKILL Trident X memory, as well; just as good, but cheaper. Also, that PSU is about 700W too large. You could drop it to a smaller PSU, and save even more money.

However, you don't need an anti-corrosive/anti-algal additive, but it can't hurt.

A fan controller is really only for noise; you can manually drop the RPM for less noise, or keep it up for performance. Unnecessary, but it could be of use to you, especially if you have a lot of fans.

A dual-loop is unnecessary, but could look better, or perform better. There should be no foreseeable problems, as long as you have enough radiator room in your case.
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Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
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CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
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OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Arch Linux 64-bit Asus 24" 1920x1080 LED Rosewill 9000 w/ MX Blues Seasonic X650 
CaseMouseMouse PadOther
Scratch build test bench Logitech G600 black Xtrac Ripper XXL 2x Corsair AF 140mm quiet edition case fans 
Other
Promilatech PK-1 
AudioAudioAudioOther
**Possibly used** HifiMan HE-500 headphones **USED** Schiit Lyr headphone amp Jolida Glass FX Tube DAC EK Nickel CSQ 680+ Waterblock 
OtherOtherOther
2x Aplhacool NexXxos UT60 360mm full copper rad... 6x Scythe Gentle Typhoon 1450 RPM fans 10 meters of 12mm OD nickel plated copper pipe,... 
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post #8 of 24
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Thanks for the suggestions. In the future I would probably throw another GPU in there, so I went big with the PSU, but if it's 700W too big, then I should certainly consider lowering the wattage. As for additives, my goal has been to stay away from them as much as possible, considering the numerous horror stories I've read about coolants and other additives that have gummed up the works. I assume your suggestion about the Titan is based off of performance/dollar, right? I recall Tom's Hardware or some other sites breaking down performance of the GTX 690 and Titan versus other systems, where they far and away lose the performance/dollar battle.

Noise isn't a huge concern to me, and with control over the fans through the motherboard, I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.

Input greatly appreciated, Briddell.
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^^ For 2x Titan you are going to need a good 800Watt or more PSU.
post #10 of 24
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Hey d6bmg,

Thanks for your input. After researching some of Briddell's suggestions, I've decided to drop the Titan for a GTX 780 (with 1 or 2 more I'll add in the future), as well as some changes to the RAM. I think for long-term expansion, I may keep the 1200W supply. Still debating about that. Thanks again. Please post if you've got any other thoughts.
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