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does this explain the sailing feeling i get on the deathadder 2013

The point is that DA/krait 2013 relies to 100% on Synapse. This is the problem/source/answer. Best example is a 3.xg DA with legacy driver, in contrast to Synapse 2.0 driver. Day/Night.
post #12 of 23
A strange thing about mice for me is, 800 DPI / 1000hz with g400 feels perfect on desktop, yet I'm much more accurate in FPS games with the 400 DPI setting (even running 2560x1440p). I could never use 400 DPI for web browsing though, it's just too slow for desktop use.
post #13 of 23
The 6000 frames WMO/Intellimouse was the Agilent version or was it an early Microsoft sensor? Which are the 9000 frame mice?
post #14 of 23
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Nothing comes close to the tracking smoothness and precision of the MLT04 at 400 DPI... I simply do not know of a single mouse capable of that sort of accuracy... even at default hz it just smashes the G400 out of the water easily at that settings. I am going to stock up on WMOs before they are all gone... we probably will never see a sensor like the MLT04 ever again so this is a chance I will not miss... there are still WMOs around and I will grab as many as I can... for Quake this is the best mouse ever. Period.

Also, from packaging description for the G400 it says 'imaging rate: 5.8 megapixels per second' so I believe this is 5800 frames per second.
Edited by Mancubus - 5/27/13 at 1:59pm
post #15 of 23
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Originally Posted by Mancubus View Post

Nothing comes close to the tracking smoothness and precision of the MLT04 at 400 DPI... I simply do not know of a single mouse capable of that sort of accuracy... even at default hz it just smashes the G400 out of the water easily at that settings. I am going to stock up on WMOs before they are all gone... we probably will never see a sensor like the MLT04 ever again so this is a chance I will not miss... there are still WMOs around and I will grab as many as I can... for Quake this is the best mouse ever. Period.

Also, from packaging description for the G400 it says 'imaging rate: 5.8 megapixels per second' so I believe this is 5800 frames per second.


Image Array x Framerate. 30 x 30 pixel coverage = 900 x 6469 FPS = 5822100 or 5.8 mp/s.

5800 FPS would equal 5.2 mp/s.
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Originally Posted by popups View Post

The 6000 frames WMO/Intellimouse was the Agilent version or was it an early Microsoft sensor? Which are the 9000 frame mice?

Both share the same SoC ST MLT04 design made for MS.

Not a different sensor unless you're talking bout the early 2k FPS Agilent model used in IO and WMO 1.0.

1.1 models are either 6000 or 9000 max registry. Twas updated after 06ish.

Edit: I can't really tell the difference. Not like you're moving to a completely foreign architecture.
Edited by Skylit - 5/27/13 at 2:36pm
post #16 of 23
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I think the Comfort 6000 would be an excellent mouse for people used to high polling rate gaming if it could be overclocked to 500 Hz like the WMO/3.0/IMO 1.1. Not that it bothers me... I am used to 125 Hz. Comfort 6000 has dynamically adaptable framerate up to 8000 and this is more than almost all optical gaming mice. Even without overclocking the USB port the Comfort 6000 has at least the same malfunction speed as the 1.1 mice (its listed as 72 IPS).
post #17 of 23
skylit nice to see you are still here. rationally speaking, all your information is nice but what does it mean?
is a 9000fps mouse aka the mlt04 that much better than a 6k one? and in which way? more accurate? faster? more responsive? less forgiving?
Edited by jayfkay - 5/27/13 at 2:45pm
post #18 of 23
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skylit nice to see you are still here. rationally speaking, all your information is nice but what does it mean?
is a 9000fps mouse aka the mlt04 that much better than a 6k one? and in which way? more accurate? faster? more responsive? less forgiving?

It's just like monitor refresh rate, anything over around 85hz gets severe diminishing returns. I doubt anyone knows the point at which this happens for mouse framerate.
post #19 of 23
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Originally Posted by jayfkay View Post

skylit nice to see you are still here. rationally speaking, all your information is nice but what does it mean?is a 9000fps mouse aka the mlt04 that much better than a 6k one? and in which way? more accurate? faster? more responsive? less forgiving?

Higher frame rate could contribute to higher IPS provided data allocation is setup properly. Though, in terms of this specific sensor, it only really aids potential smoothness of cursor path. The same way higher polling rate feels much smoother than a lower value... at least when pegged at full speed.

So no, it's not really better in terms of real world usage.. Well unless you can perceive such change. Not factoring jumps from completely different architectures and or CPI values. Hence why I mentioned not limited to~

If you're asking from a general perpective, then higher frame rate sensors are usually smoother when compared to other designs, but that value isn't static like I mentioned. For all you know, both 6000 and 9000 FPS versions can operate @ a similar framerate on a specific pad. lol

From a technical specification aspect, G400 has a stronger sensor. Larger array contributes to more accurate imaging.

6000 FPS intelli = 2.9mp/s
9000 FPS intelli = 4.4mp/s
6469 FPS G400 = 5.8mp/s.

I don't agree with a combined calculation as you have both Low fps, large array, and larger array lower FPS designs that feel completely different from each other.
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Originally Posted by r0ach View Post

It's just like monitor refresh rate, anything over around 85hz gets severe diminishing returns. I doubt anyone knows the point at which this happens for mouse framerate.

Funny enough, I have a similar resolve. But its more like 91-100 hz/fps for me biggrin.gif
Edited by Skylit - 5/27/13 at 8:27pm
post #20 of 23
Don't you think that sensor 6000 or 9000 FPS isn't that important if mouse is polled only 125 times a second and you see on screen result even less frequently?
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