Originally Posted by demoship
It seems like all OEMs are more or less the same. The worst things about OEM builds are the following IMO:
- The OEM installed malware that comes with windows. They call it "trial software," but it's really no different then other malware. The software will pop up every few days asking you to buy a license. How is that any different then a virus that makes ads pop up to try to get you to buy crap you don't need? I would say, by far, this is the worst part of any OEM machine.
- Crappy motherboards. The motherboard is one of the most important components of the computer, but isn't even mentioned with OEM machines. They generally mention CPU, RAM, hard drive space, GPU. I would say gigabyte has more marketing material describing the features of their "ultra durable" mobos then dell has describing the features of their entire machine. I have my doubts as to whether OEM mobos provide enough bandwidth between components.
- Crappy PSUs that are rated at pretty much exactly what the machine can draw, and not a watt more
- Crappy cooling. I haven't owned a dell in a long time, but the last one I saw had a retarded design involving air tunnels over the CPU
- Cheapest RAM/GPU possible.
- Basically cheapest everything possible that they don't advertise specifically. Like they don't advertise how fast the RAM is, so it's probably slow RAM.
Are there any OEMs that build machines w/ quality parts, and don't install any malware along with windows?
- Yea, those make the system cheaper. Quite easy to just uninstall them or do a fresh install...
- On the product page, there's almost always details about the motherboard - features, upgrade options, etc. It's all usually there, from almost every OEM. If you can't find that info on the product page, you can always call/email and request that info... Not quite sure what you're on about here; What are you talking about with the bandwidth? The average OEM machine is a basic chipset board (H67 for instance), one x16, a couple x4s and x1, pci slot or two, couple ram slots. These boards aren't any different from a board you can buy at NewEgg other than being locked down with OEM specific bios.
- Maybe bottom end machines, the average system I've ever worked on has had plenty of overhead for the components they shipped with, can add a upper mid-range gpu with room to spare. Low end "Facebook" machines aren't sold with the expectation they'll be upgraded with killer gpus, if that's something you want to do, buy a higher-end system or go with a boutique dealer (AVADirect, XoticPC, PC-Specialists etc). Is failing psu a big problem in OEM machines? I've never had a dead psu in a OEM machine that was less than 5 years old.
- I can agree with cooling, especially cheap middle range machines and lower.
- You get what you pay for.
- Cheapest everything? Don't advertise how fast the ram is? What? You can go on any Dell/Lenovo/Toshiba/HP listing and it'll tell you what speed the ram is (usually 1333 and since SB/IB 1600)... On configurable systems you can add more ram, faster ram, faster gpu, cpu etc etc, what are you on about? What OEMs are you looking at? If you can't find the info on the website, you can always call you know and request more info or use their online chat
Yes, they're generally pricier as well.
While I won't buy a OEM if I can avoid it, they cab be extremely flexible if you call in to make an order.