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It's a bit overwhelming to check the newegg area out on fans. I just need 2 fans to strap to my GPU (stock aftermarket cooler gets way too hot during GPGPU...). For aesthetics I was thinking like 2 x black fans with blue led (clear with blue led might be a bit overwhelming, i dont know).

I mean I see cooler master fans black with blue led for $2.99AR shipped each, can't really seem to beat that:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103060

Actually this deal seems pretty unbeatable, basically are these decent is my questions. $3 per fan, led... of course if better performing fans for similar price are out there, let me know. Yate loons are $5-6, double the price, and you gotta pay shipping so it's even more than that for them...
Edited by Belial - 5/27/13 at 2:11am
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Well if your going to be strapping them to a GPU cooler that means they will be mounted horizontally which is a big no go for sleeve bearing fans. You really need to look at either the FDB or the Double Ball Bearing for that type of mounting; and unfortunately those cost more. It's even harder to find good fans that have LED's, and usually your going to pay more for those too. Also what type of performance do you need? Basically around what RPM range? Also is noise a factor? How important a factor?
Edited by Tyler Dalton - 5/27/13 at 2:30am
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Sickleflows are good fans, however I don't recommend you use them on a GPU because they have sleeve-bearings. Having the fans horizontally aligned (Blowing air from top to bottom as opposed to left to right) will damage the bearings over time and your fans will make annoying noises. I had 2 of them on a Hyper 212+ a while back and it happened to mine.

You might have to broaden your budget a little to get the fans you need.

How about these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233048

I have had Xigmatek fans in the past and I have been impressed.
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Well if your going to be strapping them to a GPU cooler that means they will be mounted horizontally which is a big no go for sleeve bearing fans. You really need to look at either the FDB or the Double Ball Bearing for that type of mounting; and unfortunately those cost more. It's even harder to find good fans that have LED's, and usually your going to pay more for those too. Also what type of performance do you need? Basically around what RPM range? Also is noise a factor? How important a factor?

As for strapping sleeve bearing horizontally:

1. These are cheap fans. I hardly care that $2 fans 'die' in 6 months.
2. You are just relube them and everything is good as new. A single drop of mineral oil will fix any issues with running sleeves sideways.

Buying $30 fans is just out of the question for the purpose.

LEDs isn't super important, it's just something I'd be willing to pay a few bucks more for. It's not huge. Given that I'm strapping these to a GPU, I really don't need extreme performance here, they are still going to be way better than 2x90mm fans on 100%. So RPM around 1k-2k maybe. Noise is a factor but again, not a huge factor. I'll be running these fans at 100%.

I don't mean to ask for help and then blow off responses, but come on guys. Not going to go buy $30/ea fans over $2 fans just because the $2 fans might die in 6 months, and you guys should know a little relube is all it takes to fix this issue.

I'm open to any fans but $2 fans, I think you can be quite forgiving on them. Are those Xigs twice as good as those CM fans?
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At 2000RPM, those CM fans are REALLY LOUD. I personally haven't ever owned the CM fans but any fan at 2000RPM is going to be loud. I have owned the White LED version of those Xigmatek fans. They aren't great, but they aren't horrible either. They produce a nice amount of air but are a little louder than some of the more expensive fans at 1500RPM. The LEDs are very bright (at least the white ones were) but I noticed they dimmed over time. If you want LED's, really the only other good option I would suggest would be these from Enermax http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835214029 . Those turn at 1200RPM and would be the quietest of the fans mentioned so far. I would go with the Enermax fans if you can afford the few dollars extra just for the better bearing.

BTW here is a video showing how loud the CM fan is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L15A2c1EgIY

This video will show you how the Enermax fans look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo-XmL4227Y

Hopefully this information helps you.
Edited by Tyler Dalton - 5/27/13 at 3:16pm
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yea CM fans are usually blazingly loud so I'm a bit worried (and they aren't particularly good for their loudness either).

Thanks a lot. Man that $2 price tag is hard to beat though...

I'll consider elsewhere though. 2k RPM also means a ton of CFM, which is a good thing, I kinda need it. I have a fan controller so I'm not worried too much about their noise or RPM or anything, I'm more worried about their CFM/dBa.

The problem though is that those enermax silents, for example, at only 1200RPM, really aren't going to be cooling much better than my 2x90mm fans running at 3.8KRPM. Yes, they are loud, but the big problem is that they are terribly insufficient for my needs. I need way more cooling power, my GPU is overheating terribly even at 100% fan speed (hot environment, closed case).

Now if the CMs really run at their specs (which I doubt), at 69CFM@19dBa, that's actually really good.
Edited by Belial - 5/27/13 at 6:58pm
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Okay so basically these seem to be my best choices at the moment:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233048
Xigmatek fluid bearing clear w/blue led.
120mm
1500 RPM 68.33 CFM
Fluid Circulative Bearing
<20 dBA
$6.99 each is a little steep. All other brands at this price range are no name (apevia, etc)... i might consider it if it's significantly higher quality.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103060&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=6146846&SID=15a385c6n2n1t
Coolermaster R4 black case/smoke fan w/blue led
120mm
2000 RPM 69CFM (maximum RPM)
Long Life Sleeve
19 dBA
$2.99AR is just an absolutely unbeatable price...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200021
Rosewill RFX-120 Case fan
120mm
1200-2200 RPM 43.5-87.5 CFM; 1.4~3.9 mm H20 Max control by fan controller bracket
2 Ball
$2.99AR is also, again, ridiculously awesome price.
Pro - it comes with it's own fan controller (i have my own... im a little tight but really i run my 3rd cpu fan at 100% so i guess i have space... i guess this doesnt matter at all lol)
con - it's black/red, terrible aesthetic. My case is really, really, blue.. (see pics). I suppose the fan wouldn't be visible, or I could always painted it if I really cared....
I'm kinda leaning towards this card for the price and performance...

I'm replacing basically 2 x 90mm fans run at 3.6K RPM, so while they are just 90mm, they have got to b epushing 60CFM each at such speeds... I'm not just looking for something quieter per CFM, I really need higher power here. My card is hitting 90C+ inside the case during GPGPU work, and while I can run without the side panel for 70C... I didn't make this sweet looking computer with a custom window and sleeving just to take the side panel off.

I'm totally open to anything else. Price > Absolute CFM > CFM/dBa > Aesthetics. I don't mind sleeve bearing, I have no problem putting a drop of mineral oil to relube my fans every 6 months (as I do regularly anyways). I'm already set for life with a single $3 purchase of an entire bottle of mineral oil. Thats like.... 5000 lube jobs.
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yea CM fans are usually blazingly loud so I'm a bit worried (and they aren't particularly good for their loudness either).

Thanks a lot. Man that $2 price tag is hard to beat though...

I'll consider elsewhere though. 2k RPM also means a ton of CFM, which is a good thing, I kinda need it. I have a fan controller so I'm not worried too much about their noise or RPM or anything, I'm more worried about their CFM/dBa.

The problem though is that those enermax silents, for example, at only 1200RPM, really aren't going to be cooling much better than my 2x90mm fans running at 3.8KRPM. Yes, they are loud, but the big problem is that they are terribly insufficient for my needs. I need way more cooling power, my GPU is overheating terribly even at 100% fan speed (hot environment, closed case).

Now if the CMs really run at their specs (which I doubt), at 69CFM@19dBa, that's actually really good.

The CM specs are BS and I wouldn't count on getting the rebates, at least not any time soon. Besides the Xig's, I would think the only other option you have with LED's are Yate Loons. Maybe try the Enermax and buy them from Amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00574OH30/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=15KA82Q5PEGD5GHV24BN&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=1389517282&pf_rd_i=507846 . If they don't work out for you, Amazon has a great return policy, they even pay for the shipping back.
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Those enermax are too quiet/low power. They would be no upgrade from my current fans - 2x90mm fans at 3600RPM is somewhere around 60CFM each I believe.

Fans don't have to be blue led, it's just something i'd prefer if, say, i had 2 options exactly identical, or the blue LED cost an extra dollar or 2.

I do belive the CM fan specs are made up but I have no doubt they are powerful. I'm just pretty sure they will be a lot louder than advertised, but that'll still be much quieter than 2x90mm fans at 3600RPM 100%.

As for yate loons, shipping kills at $6.

edit: Not sure what CFM the R4 is (not sickle flows) but this review:
http://www.overclockers.com/65-fans-tested-megahalems/

Seems to indicate that the R4 is a great fan.

edit2: tyler dalton i dont mean to totally blow you off and basically fly against everything you said lol... but i do know quite a bit about fans, i used to do sponsored reviews of fans (its just been a while and im looking cheap). At least I've learned why the R4 is a good choice now. That $2 price tag, really can't beat that... Still, I'd like to know it's CFM, I really need 70+ CFM, I'd like 80-90 though, but ah you get what you can get. i intend to make a choice in a few hours.
Edited by Belial - 5/27/13 at 9:02pm
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Without LED and for a low price try the Swiftech Helix fans. 1800RPM and only $9.99 http://www.amazon.com/computers-accessories/dp/B007V9IRB2 I know the CM fans normally do decent in benchmarks but they almost always get reviewed badly because of their noise characteristics. Apparently they click or something.

EDIT: If you don't have Amazon Prime like me, or don't spend over $25 to get the free shipping, it might be cheaper to order the Swiftech fans from here http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=34190 or here http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swhe12mmcofa.html
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