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post #21 of 30
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you know id be totally up for buying yate loon blue LED highs instead, but petras only sells the LED fans in low speed and i dont trust buying yates from anywhere else...

i mean i could just settle for yate highs on petras, but given their high price of $18 for 2 instead of $5.98 for 2, and that they lack the aesthetic I like, it's just not worth the price...
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pretty sure that means 1 per fan. id return the fan if it meant otherwise, pretty straightforward. I'll contact cm about it.
im sorry but this rebate paranoia stuff really drives me nuts. why do people do this. I have never had an instance of not getting a rebate, and if you dont get your rebate, then you need to contact the company. it's not that difficult. Make a negative review on newegg saying you didnt get your rebate. Not getting your rebate is very rare, and even if it does go down like that, just dont be a lazy idiot and contact the company.

you know, a good 1/20, id say, packages get lost in the mail (my experience, i mail a ton of stuff all the time). People have lost mail, never follow-up on their rebate, and blame the company, but most likely the mail just got lost. I have far less faith in USPS than a company like coolermaster. Far less. Yet everyone is quick to blame companies.

And do you have personal experience with coolermaster ripping off your rebates? As far as my experience and my interactions with CM, they are a great company. It's extremely unfair of you to imply that CM would not honor their rebate. They are a small, hard working company that has really gone above and beyond for not just the tech community, but for the competitive gaming communities as well. I think it's extremely wrong of you to just slander them with no backing at all. It's completely unfair. how would you like it if some stranger just started talking crap about the job you do at work based off nothing? It's just not right.

Now if you have something serious to say about CM not honoring rebates, and you actually dogged CM about it and emailed them, I could understand, but I have never heard of a case of someone not getting their rebate once they bothered the company a bit (granted, may take a few emails, but so what). Mail gets lost, people just never email the company asking what happened to their rebate and then will post 10 times as much as a single email slandering the company instead of simply asking about their rebate. No company simply just ignores a 'hey wheres my rebate' email...

Wow no reason to get bent out of shape, you act like I just attacked you personally. I've dealt with plenty of rebates before from numerous companies, sometimes I get them back other times I don't, usually the amount is so small it's not worth the hassle. I treat a rebate more as a bonus type thing, not a guarantee.
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I think it's a little unfair to try to imply that a company won't honor it's rebates. That would be like if I implied the business you created will steal your credit card information and sell it on the black market, it's just a total what-the-hell. Unless you have a reason, in which case you should explain a bit.
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I've dealt with plenty of rebates before from numerous companies, sometimes I get them back other times I don't, usually the amount is so small it's not worth the hassle. I treat a rebate more as a bonus type thing, not a guarantee.

If you aren't getting your rebates back, 99% of the time it's because your mail simply got lost (either to or fro). USPS loses mail all the time. I have a powerseller account on ebay, and literally, a good 1/20 items has an issue in shipping. It's very unfair to blame tech companies who do a lot for the community, who do a lot to offer competitive prices, when it is not their fault. Instead of blaming someone's hard work and soul, you should email them... I mean how would you feel if you created a business, and people just started writing crap about the business you invested and risked everything for because USPS loses a good portion of the mail? It's not right.

Nor do I agree with your attitude, rebate is a part of the price, and it is guaranteed. Companies like coolermaster do a ton to support the community, and competitive gaming, they really do a lot of good for the community. I think before you cast dispersions towards a company, basically saying that they steal people's money, you should have something solid to say about it.

That would be like me saying "oh don't have sex with james because men rape women'. Like, james hasn't raped anyone. If james has raped someone, please, let us know exactly what happened before we treat him like crap, shun him from the community, and label him a sex offender, but just because men rape women, doesn't mean james does. Just because some companies in the past may not honor rebates, doesn't mean an upstanding company like CM won't.

Does any of this make sense? Or no? I think it's pretty straightforward and simple. Coolermaster isn't like.. i dont know, i dont know what company has a reputation for being shady and not honoring rebates that I could use as an example because I dont want to throw some company under the bus for an example here... but they are a good company, and I will assume they are a good company until I have good reason to believe otherwise.

Anyways I went ahead and ordered the 2 x CM R4s. I think I'd rather have yate loons (and clear fans with blue led instead of black case/blue fan as the r4) but petras doesn't sell the blues in high speed so... frown.gif
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According to this review by xbit:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/120mm-fan-roundup-2_15.html#sect0

sickleflow is straight up the 3rd best fan in CFM/dBa, (behind scythe kama/ultra). pretty crazy, seems like it's actually an awesome fan. Ehume's 65 fan review also stated that too.

i'd love to see them compared to yate loons. funny, it appears that yate loons are better than noctuas... actually it seems like yate loons are better than everything, except .5 dba louder than noctua p12 only in open air, but way better than it on a radiator (not to mention dat cost).

edit: according to anandtech, sickleflows are terrible on a radiator, so maybe the rub is they are terrible static pressure.
Edited by Belial - 5/28/13 at 11:08pm
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Wow no reason to get bent out of shape, you act like I just attacked you personally. I've dealt with plenty of rebates before from numerous companies, sometimes I get them back other times I don't, usually the amount is so small it's not worth the hassle. I treat a rebate more as a bonus type thing, not a guarantee.
I don't mess with rebates anymore personally, to much of a hassle and then if you need to RMA they hassle you about the UPC being cut ... I know people have good luck with it all the time but I don't mess with it.
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So replacing the dual-x with 2x120s has caused increased temps.

I dont know if it's because of maybe poor paste application job i did (that really should only account for maybe 5C), that the sickleflows have really bad static pressure, or because the RPM is too low at ~1800...

I need to somehow supercharge these fans... this is lame.

like we're talking over 10C worse easily within 1 minute. i dont even know how bad they are because i have my system shutdown immediately if i hit 91C on my 7950s. Yes, that's a lot higher than what most people would say as a max for 7950.
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I think the RFX Rosewills are pretty much the best bet for that price.

Ball bearing means they'll last a lifetime, and they pack more punch than Sickleflows which are loud and anemic that I usually shorten them to 'sickflows'.
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If you want a better gpu cooler, check out the arctic cooling gpu coolers. I bought the Twin Turbo II for 34€ few months back. It's incredibly silent compared to asus DC (single fan) cooler, i have the fans set on 15% rpm constantly and i never go over 65 degrees with my GPU overclocked to 950mhz from 810mhz. I highly recommend it thumb.gif
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If you want a better gpu cooler, check out the arctic cooling gpu coolers. I bought the Twin Turbo II for 34€ few months back. It's incredibly silent compared to asus DC (single fan) cooler, i have the fans set on 15% rpm constantly and i never go over 65 degrees with my GPU overclocked to 950mhz from 810mhz. I highly recommend it thumb.gif

I second that. I went from a stock cooler with a dying fan to a Twin Turbo II at the beginning of March and couldn't be happier. Unfortunately it looks like that cooler is not compatible with the 7950. The only cooler I can find compatible with that card is the massive ARCTIC Accelero Xtreme 7970 VGA Cooler and its roughly $75.

Honestly it sounds like something else is wrong though. The card shouldn't be getting that hot with the stock cooler which from everything I've read is very good. Pushing more air through the heatsink will only help so much is there is another problem somewhere else. You said you reapplied the thermal paste. I would try taking it apart again and use some high quality thermal grease and make sure it is mounted correctly. At this point I'm not sure what you have to lose by trying that.
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rosewills arent as good, although i think i did see something say they were slightly better on heatsinks or something. at best they are comparable. the 65 fan review ehume did and xbitlabs report on the sickles say they are basically some of the best fans out there, period, but anandtech's report seems to indcate they have terrible static pressure, which might be the problem?

as for fan life, literally a single drop of lube fixes any issue of running sleeve bearing horizontal or lifespan. you should be relubing every fan type, in any orientation, every 6 to 12 months anyways.

the reason that the stock cooling is getting so hot on me is because 1, small case with acrylic window, 2, im running GPGPU work. my temps are actually normal for GPGPU work, my temps w-hen gaming or furmark are the same 55, 70c, that everyone else gets. trust me, you run this particular gpgpu program on intensity 20 (most people run intensity 13-19 for this reason), youll hit 80c easily too.

i tried remounting with pk-2 (ran out of pk3) and nothing changed. I know pk3 is significantly better but basically it wasnt the terriblr tim job i did. i think the issue is simply 90mm fans at 3600rpm are better than sickle flows at 1800. i think its part low speed on the sickles, and part bad static pressure.

really lame. not sure if i should buy some yate loon highs from petras (and forego blue LEDs or maybe mod them onto the yates) for their 2200rpm and high staticpressure, or give this idea of budget aftermakret cooling. i think a lot of the cfm is being lost where it overhangs past the heatsink.

just an h60 and dwood bracket at 60 is too expensive. honestly no 7950 model has adequate cooling for my needs except maybe an asus dc2 v2. maybe i should just buy one of those instead...
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