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no offense to the citizens of America but world police springs to mind with all the FBI stuff going on. Let alone the constant regime change policies in force Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan (n.Korea next ?) that the CIA carry out. Uber power, no limits

Even if MS didn't want to snoop and share there are easily attainable ways of the government forcing them to comply and share.. not a video but a real time feed of your home !

is it a games console or an invasive surveillance tool ? Why make it mandatory ? when someone answers that properly at MS then we shall see the full picture. I wont buy one and casually mentioning the kinect feature to friends and family turns them off immediately from buying one. If this becomes a big story in the papers then MS are not going to sell many

If Americans ever caught something like that going down the revolt would be huge. Your taking about people that go into crazy rage over restricting their gun laws or privacy laws. While I not a gun person and believe in background checks, some simply don't and get overly mad about even requiring one. But Americans valve their privacy more then most nations, and government really has to work to please its people. While it might be a good story for your mind in reality it will never really happen. Though if it turns out that the government can go through MS after filling out the proper paper work and going through the court system to tap into some drug king pin that just so happens to be dumb enough to own a kinect and do illegal activity through it then so be it. The same thing happens with Cell phones, and the same Big Brother argument can be said about that as well.

It is good in theory but it is not part of big brother scheme.

MS also has good privacy record on hand, and has for years been building software dealing with privacy. While Sony, EA, among others have been caught time and time doing shady things and giving or having user Data stolen away.
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When I first read that a Kinect MUST be attached and that I HAVE to have it connected to the internet (have never played online, don't care for it personally), MS made up my mind for me - PS4 it is then biggrin.gif
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If Americans ever caught something like that going down the revolt would be huge. Your taking about people that go into crazy rage over restricting their gun laws or privacy laws. While I not a gun person and believe in background checks, some simply don't and get overly mad about even requiring one. But Americans valve their privacy more then most nations, and government really has to work to please its people. While it might be a good story for your mind in reality it will never really happen. Though if it turns out that the government can go through MS after filling out the proper paper work and going through the court system to tap into some drug king pin that just so happens to be dumb enough to own a kinect and do illegal activity through it then so be it. The same thing happens with Cell phones, and the same Big Brother argument can be said about that as well.

It is good in theory but it is not part of big brother scheme.

MS also has good privacy record on hand, and has for years been building software dealing with privacy. While Sony, EA, among others have been caught time and time doing shady things and giving or having user Data stolen away.

I agree with everything your saying but without smoke there is no fire. People have to take a stand or question in the first instance and this is what people are voicing here, paranoid or not il take that rebuttal on the chin.
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Yea I was so looking forward to the new xbox and the MOMENT I found out about the kinect needing to always be connected & on I instantly wrote it off as ever being a purchase and advised everyone I knew interested in a new console to look at the PS4 instead (Coming from someone who owns an xbox and not a ps3)

I will keep checking and HOPING that MSoft's calendar is messed up and they thought it was April 1st when they announced it and are currently just trying to see how long they can keep the joke going...
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so simple and so true. The 'terror agenda is the fuel for this technology

those who trust big corps without question should look in the mirror thats being carried out of their repossessed home some day

I pay my bills on time. I've had nothing repossessed because I was responsible and didn't buy a $500,000 house because I was promoted to be manager at the local McDonalds.

However I find it good not to trust most people, let alone entities. You can go mad worrying about who's watching, listening, following, plotting, etc. I'm not saying put your head in the sand, but just take some simple preventative steps to protect yourself. An ounce a prevention is worth a pound of cure.
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When I first read that a Kinect MUST be attached and that I HAVE to have it connected to the internet (have never played online, don't care for it personally), MS made up my mind for me - PS4 it is then biggrin.gif

Same here.
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You know you could always just.... make it face the wall.
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I pay my bills on time. I've had nothing repossessed because I was responsible and didn't buy a $500,000 house because I was promoted to be manager at the local McDonalds.

However I find it good not to trust most people, let alone entities. You can go mad worrying about who's watching, listening, following, plotting, etc. I'm not saying put your head in the sand, but just take some simple preventative steps to protect yourself. An ounce a prevention is worth a pound of cure.


I agree but the list is growing and its getting harder to feel like your life is private online:

Step 1: Don't get involved with facebook its evil, ive seen people lose jobs over it and over almost nothing just the way they look !

Step 2: Be careful what you put on the cloud, public or private or google+ (Setup your "own-cloud" and safely share data) the faces of the family photos you share are tagged and profiled.

Step 3: Don't trust Android or Google - sorry its true, they have every wireless Key of anyone who has ever used their phone to connect to a wifi network public or private and there is no opt out unless you opt out of everything ?! why ? .. they also war drive and took everyones SSID when making google maps is just one example of them having access to a very large percentage of the worlds home networks... and now they make a car that can autonomously drive down the street and connect to your home! isnt that just a 'tad' crazy

Cant wait for Firefox mobile O/S thats one group of people that haven't broken trust as of yet.

Step 4: Don't buy xbox one if its kinect is as bad as it sounds. its another privacy invasion.


Im kind of hoping the EU gets a grip on all of this.
Edited by Pip Boy - 5/27/13 at 9:49am
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I agree but the list is growing and its getting harder to feel like your life is private online:

Step 1: Don't get involved with facebook its evil, ive seen people lose jobs over it and over almost nothing just the way they look ! Yet nearly everyone has a account.

Step 2: Be careful what you put on the cloud, public or private or google+, icloud anything you give to sony (Setup your "own-cloud" and safely share data) the faces of the family photos you share are tagged and profiled.

Step 3: Don't trust Apple or Sony - sorry its true, they have every wireless Key of anyone who has ever used their phone to connect to a wifi network public or private and there is no opt out unless you opt out of everything ?! why ? .. they also war drive and took everyones SSID when making google maps is just one example of them having access to a very large percentage of the worlds home networks... and now they make a car that can autonomously drive down the street and connect to your home! isnt that just a 'tad' crazy

Cant wait for Android Keylime Pie thats one group of people that haven't broken trust as of yet.

Step 4: Don't buy PS4 if its webcam is as bad as it sounds. its another privacy invasion.


Im kind of hoping the EU gets a grip on all of this.

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I have Kinect, but my xbox is in my "Nerdroom".....so, they can keep looking at my pc collection all they want......or one can simply point it at a wall when not in use.....also, Kinect is really kinda boring and really annoying to use rolleyes.gif
    
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