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Originally Posted by GrizzleBoy View Post

I don't even know why you're on the internet if you're so worried about this stuff.

"The man" already made a note of the people who will provide opposition to our goals in the early stages, yourself included.

Kinect isn't exactly some vital tool necessary for dominating you. Your neighbours are actually plants that tell them all they need to know about you.

When you aren't home (and they know, because they're your neighbours) many bugs were planted and they know everything.


Now they can see your thoughts too on internet forums. They know you have to be in the group to be neutralised first.

If you had to let your "neighbour" read your mail before it was posted, would you feel "comfortable"? No? Then why would you let an ISP potentially do it? Sure they aren't "the government", but the government could decide to snoop on everything you do on the internet, and then what?

World War 3 and the fulfilment of prophecies, that's what.

If anything that's "just one more nail in the coffin" for internet for you isn't it?


ITs a slippery slope man. I shouldn't even be telling you this stuff. You shouldn't be on the internet. It will be your fault when they get you.


your a bit odd aren't you


fine pay more.
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Today under legal precedent, about the only place you hae a reasonable expectation of privacy in your home. Once you purchase a device with this sort of technology, I can see a prosecutor making an argument that you have willingly given up that reasonable expectation of privacy.
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Today under legal precedent, about the only place you hae a reasonable expectation of privacy in your home. Once you purchase a device with this sort of technology, I can see a prosecutor making an argument that you have willingly given up that reasonable expectation of privacy.

Or that MS has to abide by all the same rules as anybody else. Did you give up your right to privacy when you bought a cell phone?
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they just said you can turn the kinect off.....so why the paranoia? You think they invested millions in this Kinect just so they can make something to gauge what advertisements should be used? There're so many other technologies already in place that could do that...

it's just one tool among many to achieve that goal, and one that could give them a unique advantage. after all, in terms of internet data mining, google has them beat currently.
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Hey, why argue? Conformist will conform...They just don't understand why you don't think like them.
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People are blind,try to monitor every family in the world?Let's use Xbox with a camera and a microphone.
They watching and listening no matter how much we try to deny it.
"We’re a leader in the world of privacy, I think you’ll find,” (This should put our minds to work ).
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People are blind,try to monitor every family in the world?Let's use PS4 with a camera and a microphone.
They watching and listening no matter how much we try to deny it.
"We’re a leader in the world of privacy, I think you’ll find,” (This should put our minds to work ).

Last time I checked $ony was responsible for the leakage of users data but CC's on the PSN. When is the last time MS got hacked and tons of user data stolen? Sony got hacked more then once, on more then just PSN.
$ony also has a Webcam bundled with the system that will also be watching you(and knowing sony they will wink.gif), considering you can turn the kinect off as MS has stated, the spying ability is no different the the ps4's ability. Other then the PS4 probably having lack luster software that might not keep hackers away from hacking into your webcam will make you feel secure. Hope you have fun not even plugging your ps4's web cam in and losing out on everything it brings.



As for the DRM aspect, funny PC users are complaining about non intrusive DRM as they have been using it for years with Steam. Atleast MS/$ony said they were still going to have used games, MS is adamant about killing Game Stops's business and $ony is leaving it up to the publishers what will probably go the same way as the Xbox. Xbox One and not using disc's is still the future, having to use a non intrusive DRM to achieve this is a must.
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As for the DRM aspect, funny PC users are complaining about non intrusive DRM as they have been using it for years with Steam. Atleast MS/$ony said they were still going to have used games, MS is adamant about killing Game Stops's business and $ony is leaving it up to the publishers what will probably go the same way as the Xbox. Xbox One and not using disc's is still the future, having to use a non intrusive DRM to achieve this is a must.

and i assume they will pass the savings (from preventing piracy) on to consumers the way steam does as well? so i will be seeing lots of $30-40 xbox games and half off sales as well?

honestly, console games are not that commonly pirated methinks in the States. on the other hand, in places like china, its a different story. i kind of get why they want to deal with it for that reason, but i just sucks as an american consumer knowing that you have to deal with this crap because of other markets....
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and i assume they will pass the savings (from preventing piracy) on to consumers the way steam does as well? so i will be seeing lots of $30-40 xbox games and half off sales as well?

honestly, console games are not that commonly pirated methinks in the States. on the other hand, in places like china, its a different story. i kind of get why they want to deal with it for that reason, but i just sucks as an american consumer knowing that you have to deal with this crap because of other markets....

You can't buy newly released games on Steam for $30-40. Steam still charges you the same fee as the store for new games yet they don't have to deal with distribution. While I hope this changes, it has not yet. While it is more likely that the game will go on sale for a cheaper price in a few months or so, but you can get a used PS4/Xbox One game from someone for around the same price. (Craigslist would be a good start.) Well of course piracy needs to be avoided, and if the Xbox One will only be using disc's to activate the right to use the game onto your account and to install then a form of DRM has to be in place to prevent piracy else it would be rampant. You would be surprised on how many people have 360's with flashed disc drives, and how easy it is to burn those games. Thing is consoles will have the same non-intrusive DRM that PC gamers have known to love, except xbox one users don't need to type any code in.
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