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post #21 of 28
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Thing is Seagate here gives you just 1 year warranty, whereas with the WD Caviar Black you get a 5 year warranty. tongue.gif
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You have to understand that consumer line hdds are not really designed to be reliable. My best advice for you if you are afraid is to run a redundancy array like raid5
   
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post #23 of 28
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You have to understand that consumer line hdds are not really designed to be reliable. My best advice for you if you are afraid is to run a redundancy array like raid5
Hmm... reading up on it thumb.gif
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You have to understand that consumer line hdds are not really designed to be reliable. My best advice for you if you are afraid is to run a redundancy array like raid5

Raid 5 isn't recommended unless you get dedicated raid controller like this
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816118129
which is quite expensive

If you run complicated raid like raid 5 or 6 off the intel chipset, what will happen is
-slow read
-extremely slow write
-not so good performance
-uses cpu to process (like 2~3% cpu utilization)

so, there are 3 options that I can recommend
-do not run raid
-run raid 1 (data protection)
-run raid 10 (require 4 drives, 2x write speed, 2x protection, 2x read speed)

these options above does not require cpu processing and way more reliable compared to raid 5 or 6,
intel chipsets like z77 and x79 can handle raid 1 and 10 no problem

Video explaining raid 0,1,5,6,10

raid 0,1,10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eE7Bfw9lFfs
raid 5,6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P8ZecG9iOI

Edit : remember to get good drives when running raid
examples, ssds, velociraptors, wd red/black, seagate barracuda, samsung spinpoint f3
Edited by IChangedMyName - 5/29/13 at 1:29pm
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post #25 of 28
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Heck man I'll just go with a single WD Black for now and get that RAID later down the road biggrin.gif Could you help me out with the watrcooling please? Like is the750 powerful enough to cool the 3570K along with the thermo fusion on the mobo?
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Heck man I'll just go with a single WD Black for now and get that RAID later down the road biggrin.gif Could you help me out with the watrcooling please? Like is the750 powerful enough to cool the 3570K along with the thermo fusion on the mobo?
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Pumps are all about that pump pressure/flow rate and how it matches with the blocks, some blocks like high pressure, some like low and whatnot.
I dont personally see the point in wasting money on a custom loop when you're only dealing with the cpu unless you really want to overclock it and post a number and feel good about yourself lol. better off just spending a good 80 on aircooling and spending that additional money on a larger ssd
And spending 120 on a freakin blueray drive is absurd... do you really need that?
Swap the psu for the hx750 or ax750, itll give you a little bit more headroom to upgrade in the future and overclock and stuff.
Edited by rpg711 - 5/29/13 at 3:45pm
   
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post #27 of 28
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Pumps are all about that pump pressure/flow rate and how it matches with the blocks, some blocks like high pressure, some like low and whatnot.
I dont personally see the point in wasting money on a custom loop when you're only dealing with the cpu unless you really want to overclock it and post a number and feel good about yourself lol. better off just spending a good 80 on aircooling and spending that additional money on a larger ssd
And spending 120 on a freakin blueray drive is absurd... do you really need that?
Swap the psu for the hx750 or ax750, itll give you a little bit more headroom to upgrade in the future and overclock and stuff.
I'll admit it: I'm getting it for the looks, just like the Phantom tongue.gif
Maybe I'll just get a DVD Drive and be done with it. PS3 can handle the Blue-Rays good enough.
HX-750. Done sir thumb.gif
Actually I'm gonna make use of the Thermo Fusion on the board too so that's CPU + Mobo. GPU has it's own Vapor-X. I'd thought about the D5, but I'd end up spending 80 $ more bruce.gif so I decided on the 750 as I'm not including a GPU. Should be able to handle the loop. Currently I decided on XS-PC, but I've been looking into EK too. Which one would you suggest?
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post #28 of 28
Either would serve you fine, ek has some cool tops tho if you want the looks(and some might say ek is the only way to go for wc)

Don't worry about power... The pumps literally only consume maybe 10-15w,theyre pretty efficient. You only need to drive a single block single rad loop, your overall load will be low. People drive multigpu + cpu + ridiculous amounts of radiators with the d5.
   
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