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Maybe AMD will be supplying the hardware for the servers that will make the XOne 4x more powerful tongue.gif

That isn't as silly as it sounds......
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3bn for the full product life cycle? What's that going to be, another 7-8 years?

Yeah, being over the life span of the product is the only way it makes sense.Though I think Microsoft is planning to get a decade out of the Xbox one.

3 billion / 10 years = 300 million a year. At a 35% profit margin(more than actual) = 105 million a year profit. Still not enough to put AMD in the black. But, then again, not all of this 3 billion is pure gain because AMD is already receiving money for the 360 GPU. So we would have to know how much AMD received from microsoft in 2012 to know how much this will move the needle.

Of course, the PS4 will probably provide an equal amount as well.
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post #53 of 62
Regardless of the profit made from this, their stock prices are up, and I can only see them rising from where they are now.
Its actually pretty impressive, they have pulled off the great escape.

As far as the life cycle goes, I reckon the new gen consoles will only be around for 5 years before being replaced or being updated.
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post #54 of 62
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That isn't as silly as it sounds......

Indeed, Radeon Sky is practically a given for these servers.
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Nvidia is being pushed out of mobile. No one wants tegra when snapdragon and custom chips (exynos, A series) deliver very good performance with good battery life, compared to tegra which provides better performance but drains battery life like no other. Plus tegra 4 doesnt support LTE/HSPA+, you need the weaker tegra 4i. Only one smartphone has been announced to use tegra 4 due to power consumption issues.

As for being different, you are wrong, an AMD executive said a few weeks ago they believe the future is in hybrid PCs with much of the content being delivered via the cloud. In the next couple years x86 tablets/hybrids will be the standard. Thats why intel is renewing the dead Atom line, and is trying to focus more on power savings and IGP performance, because the future is mobility.

It's unlikely that AMD can get into that market in the short term, considering that they lack integrated basebands, and while the efficiency improvements with jaguar are commendable, they are still getting beat by current ARM SOCs (Snapdragon 600, Exynos...) in terms of performace per watt
 
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Uh, why is the project being valued at $3B a good thing when the value is about expenses that have to be put into the project?

Absolutely nothing has been said about profit margins, which knowing consoles, are extremely likely to be razor thin.
AMD doesn't have to do anything at a thin margin. The cost of the console is M$'s problem. AMD only has to be cheaper than nvidia at the bidding table.

Thing is, I don't think they had to be cheaper than nvidia (to a point of where it would make sense not to go with a seperate cpu and gpu). They had something that no one else could offer, the APU. The all in one solution, which should make it cheaper for MS and Sony. Could you imagine the cost of a console with a Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU. rolleyes.gif
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The xbox one release was one of the most horrible release events ever, which lead to people talking about how bad the console is when it is not even released. I personally would go for PS4 if I was a console gamer, but the Xbox ONE propably has a few tricks up it's sleeve.
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The xbox one release was one of the most horrible release events ever, which lead to people talking about how bad the console is when it is not even released. I personally would go for PS4 if I was a console gamer, but the Xbox ONE propably has a few tricks up it's sleeve.
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Uh, why is the project being valued at $3B a good thing when the value is about expenses that have to be put into the project?

Absolutely nothing has been said about profit margins, which knowing consoles, are extremely likely to be razor thin.

Profit margings are not the only important thing here. They could have gotten millions for R&D they couldn't have just coughed up themselves, they might have been able to make the manufacturing process cheaper for their similar regular CPUs, they have kept an enormous amount of employees busy that might have to let go otherwise or even attracted very talented new employees they could not have payed otherwise. Even with a profit margin of 0% it can still have had an enormous positive impact on AMD.
 
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What is it worth if the XB1 is a failure?
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