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nvidia in ruins. better sell your stock now before it tanks

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Haha!

*zing*
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Well there's your problem
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Granted, this is a rumor but why are their so many people doubting AMD when it comes to GPU's? They have stated many times that they are going to heavily focus on gaming. They have stated that they produce the most powerful graphic cards. The last few months the Titan has put Nvidia in the lead both in performance and high price. You don't think they want to take back the performance crown?

Since AMD has publicly stated that they're envisioning 50% of future revenues coming from "high growth markets" (e.g. dense servers, embedded and semi-custom processors), it does seem that they've largely capitulated getting the performance crowns in traditional markets like x86 chips and GPUs.
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Whats the big deal... unless your Nvidia because it's going to kill your profit margins.

The enormous costs incurred by their attempt to "bribe" gamers over to their side is one of the key reasons that AMD's graphics division (which is the only profitable part of the company) only had a profit of $16M (that's million with an "m") in Q1'13.

Spending $TEXAS on their "Never Settle" bundles really put a hurt on their per-card margins.
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nvidia in ruins. better sell your stock now before it tanks

I didn't know that NVIDIA lost $1.18 Billion last year, had their stock price plummet 90% in the last 7 years, had to go through massive layoffs recently, were forced to sell all their fabs and sign a crippling Wafer Supply Agreement that couldn't possibly be fulfilled without incurring massive penalties, had to sell and re-lease their own HQ to pick up quick cash flow, and has only a 35% market share of discrete GPUs and 14% share of x86 chips.

Oh wait, that's AMD. My bad.
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The 8870 specs seem to be somewhat similar to the 7870 Tahiti LE.


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post #178 of 465
Seems like the 8850/8870 are weaker then the purpose specs for Sea Islands...


sucks cause these looks good
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Since AMD has publicly stated that they're envisioning 50% of future revenues coming from "high growth markets" (e.g. dense servers, embedded and semi-custom processors), it does seem that they've largely capitulated getting the performance crowns in traditional markets like x86 chips and GPUs.
The enormous costs incurred by their attempt to "bribe" gamers over to their side is one of the key reasons that AMD's graphics division (which is the only profitable part of the company) only had a profit of $16M (that's million with an "m") in Q1'13.

Spending $TEXAS on their "Never Settle" bundles really put a hurt on their per-card margins.

Okay, I have several issues with this.

1. AMD expects 20% of future revenues to come from "high growth markets"
Source

2. What does a decrease in market share have to do with a company's ability to release new products that match or exceed the competition. If anything it is only more of a reason for a company to release products that match or exceed the competition.

3. Yes, the never settle bundles are costing them alot of money. Also, Yes, Nvidia's cards have a higher profit margin even with the bundle excluded but they are not looking to make some quick cash. Their betting the farm on APU's and Gaming, and if they had to break even in discrete GPU's just to push forward the rest of the company you don't think they would? Long term goals is to establish AMD as the go to company for Gaming. They wont do it overnight, but they will continue to sell high performance cards with lower prices and lower profit margins than nvidia until they increase their market share and eventually increase their fan loyalty base. I bet most people who purchased a 7xxx are very happy with not only the games but the performance of their cards.

I can tell from your sig rigs thats your a Nvidia fan, and I wasn't talking trash about Nvidia. Both companies have been pretty even in performance for awhile now. Which is why I don't get people have their doubts about AMD's GPU division. Yes, the drivers were not as good as NVidia's but they have invested more money into the 7xxx series and they have improved drastically.

From everything you said it sounds like your just hating on AMD just to hate on AMD.
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Just because it's a better value doesn't mean it's a good value. The Athlon FX chips were better values than P4 EEs, didn't mean there was much of a reason to buy them over a regular Athlon that cost a third of the price...

Of course better value means it's good value in comparison, what you smoking bro?

Put the blame where it belongs, with Nvidia.. The Titan and 780 are ridiculously overpriced. Gets a bit lame when people try and put blame on AMD somehow, Nvidia have been fleecing people for an age.. If more people voted with their wallets we wouldn't be in this mess, yet many people ran out and couldn't wait to blow their load on a $1000 GPU, the Titan.. Well guess what people now Nvidia knows you guys will pay crazy money they have raised the stakes even more with the X80 series, 780 sets a new precedent if Nvidia greed..

I voted with my wallet, done my bit lol.

Thank god for AMD.

I'm not blaming AMD and I agree they offer a better value.
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