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China just seems like a lawless and criminal state to me. The government lets the people do as they please, as long as it doesn't disagree with their interests. China wouldn't even be a player if not for American corporate greed. Companies like apple want to sell you their 600 dollar ipad , but only pay 8 dollars to make it. This is instead of the whopping 23 bux it would cost to make it in the US.

It's not tho. Just like you shouldn't believe that the entire continent of Africa has yet to evolve from the Lion King because of those Child-a-Day commercials, you shouldn't think China is some lawless region, or the Chinese get to do whatever that want because of this article.
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My point exactly. Why are we not hiring the best hackers we can at any price to start combating this? Or maybe that's been tried and is failing idk, but I would like to hear about this not happening anymore.

The US gov't has scared off hackers by prosecuting them for decades. China embraces hackers and hires them.

The US military wants to set up a cyber-security command but can't even find enough qualified people to fill the spots.
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It's not tho. Just like you shouldn't believe that the entire continent of Africa has yet to evolve from the Lion King because of those Child-a-Day commercials, you shouldn't think China is some lawless region, or think the Chinese get to do whatever that want because of this article.

In many ways, the Chinese have less economic restrictions than this 'Murica people keep referring to. In the long run, this may prove to be the greatest advantage to the Chinese. However, Chinese are also socially, culturally, and religiously oppressed to an extent not seen in the US.
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Congradulations tax payers, the F-35 JSF, americas newest multi billion ( trillion?) dollar war machine that was developed to fight against super powers ( aka russia, china ) has now been stolen.

But I don't think the problem is China attempting to steal cyber info, its the lack of American security of its secrets.



And lets be honest, you can guarantee that the United States Gov/Military has their own hacker department, the problem is, no one else really has advance technology for us to benifit from.
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In many ways, the Chinese have less economic restrictions than this 'Murica people keep referring to. In the long run, this may prove to be the greatest advantage to the Chinese. However, Chinese are also socially, culturally, and religiously oppressed to an extent not seen in the US.

Actually, the lack of economic restrictions is starting to take a toll on China.... just look at their environment issues, corruption, and lack of IP protection. Without strong IP protect, China will never become a leader in new technology.
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Actually, the lack of economic restrictions is starting to take a toll on China.... just look at their environment issues, corruption, and lack of IP protection. Without strong IP protect, China will never become a leader in new technology.

That is certainly an interesting assumption, considering how all new tech is now being manufactured over there. I think it is only a matter of time before all new tech development ends up taking place there as well. Competition has historically driven the best new technology development, not limitation on who is allowed to profit from it.
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Problem is after 30 years of our electoral representatives getting rich by outsourcing everything and having Legal insider information they enriched themselves on, the only thing made in America left is us.

Oh and on topic *cough China... I really don't know what China is looking for offense/defense wise, more than likely it's exactly what others have said though, why develop your own for trillions of dollars in R & D when some hacker can steal it for you for a lifetime subscription to WoW. I jest.
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Congradulations tax payers, the F-35 JSF, americas newest multi billion ( trillion?) dollar war machine that was developed to fight against super powers ( aka russia, china ) has now been stolen.

Good. They can have the piece of worthless junk. Maybe they can fix what's wrong with it and we can steal those designs back. thumb.gif
 
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You gotta be pretty dumb/retarded to put such sensitive info on the web instead of closed network.

This info must have been transferred from one network to another, no way someone dropped the ball by accident.
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Everyone be afraid! Support defense spending! Whaargle baaargle!

The US is under no immediate threat from China. In an open conflict China would either lose or let loose their nukes and then humanity would lose. The people in power over there enjoy their lives and have no wish to see them end.

Not to mention that the US is single largest consumer of Chinese made goods. If war was to break out it would decimate China's economy. Espionage is going to happen and I have to believe that the US, which spends so much on defense and intelligence, is giving out as good as it is getting. Don't forget the most sophisticated piece of malware released to date, Stuxnet, was a US made program and it was used to attack the infrastructure of Iran.
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