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we're already planning to drop marines and giant poles from space. this is the ultimate high ground.

We have a contingent of giant Polish people in space? wth.gif
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post #92 of 106
The info stolen was just bait and Chine bit on it. The US is trollin' China.
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post #93 of 106
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Originally Posted by Tatakai All View Post

The info stolen was just bait and Chine bit on it. The US is trollin' China.
You can be sure there is a plethora of misinformation out there as well as the real stuff. However, the sad fact is we are behind the Chinese when it comes to cyber warfare. The US is moving in the right direction, but we're still behind.
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I am fairly certain we have robust cyber warfare capabilities. I am sure the Chinese government wouldn't say anything if they were his hacked.
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Actually, the industrial espionage is very real and important data was stolen. There's no conspiracy around this. See "Unit 61398" or Google hacks or RSA hack. It also is pretty hard to fool someone with a completely fake design... it's not like they building whatever they find. There are other engineers in the world. Even if there was misinformation, there still would be more useful information.

...you've been watching too much TV....
The issue is probably that China does not have as good/much IP to steal!

What a country chooses to divulge about it's intelligence and counter-intelligence undertakings are far from a complete, honest truth. To think that you can get a complete picture of what's going on from google is a bit naive.

You're right, it would be difficult to cook up some phoney plans and pass them off as real. People do things that are "pretty hard" all the time.
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Just because you don't have a computer that runs on qubit's doesn't mean they don't exist. but I guess being a forum mod makes you all knowing, and I'm just a crackpot tinfoil guy rolleyes.gif

...prove it? So.... Just because you think computers that run qubits exist, i guess being a crackpot tinfoil guy proves you statement even though you present no evidence supporting your claim? An ad hominen response it pretty weak.

Do you have any understanding how hard it is to get stable qubits? All current published peer-reviewed papers are still only researching the building blocks needed to even consider building a working quantum computer.
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What a country chooses to divulge about it's intelligence and counter-intelligence undertakings are far from a complete, honest truth. To think that you can get a complete picture of what's going on from google is a bit naive.

You're right, it would be difficult to cook up some phoney plans and pass them off as real. People do things that are "pretty hard" all the time.
Of course.... but there are security white papers published on these topics explain what happened. Again, these hacks do get published and if you read enough of the articles, you can get a better picture of the situation.

Again... most of the information would have to be good. So even if some of the data was bad, you still have provided them with concepts and approaches to problems. Note, the US supposed leaked some oil pump designed to Russia and caused an explosion decades ago. So it is possible... but the volume of data, type of data, and companies being attacked... they are DEFINITELY getting something.

i.e. RSA was hacked and the stolen data was probably then used to infiltrate Boeing.
Edited by DuckieHo - 5/29/13 at 8:44pm
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Were they supposed to get a medal instead?

No, but if they can easily find vulnerabilities in your nations systems, isnt it worth at least finding out how they did it?
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post #98 of 106
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what they don;t mention is that we know this because we've been in their networks for years and have eyes in their offices watching their every move lol.


One thing you never see is reports on espionage from the USA against other countries, and it happens... being the richest, or used to be richest nation, you don't just sit there idly.

They have been targeting Iranian industrial computers in an effort to hinder their nuclear program.

If we consider that many countries are attacking each other through hacking, why do we not consider it as war? Well, it is cyber war. I see this in a positive light, as it will become increasingly commonplace to wage an attack through electronic and economic means - without a shot being fired. Even though news of violence in the world seems more widespread, the world is actually at it's least violent stage in history! And this trend looks set to continue.
Edited by Bennny - 5/30/13 at 4:56am
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You make it sound like an enlightened utopia with statements like this. I don't think that's quite accurate.

I agree with most everything you've said here. thumb.gif
This one isn't my post though could you please change the quote? Thanks
 
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If I were a hacker, and were I caught, I'd take a lengthy prison sentence over cooperation, because I'd probably have more freedom in federal prison than an employee of some of these agencies.
The freedom to sit on a donut
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