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If only it would have decent enough GPU we would be looking at SteamBOX. even the pricepoint would be sort of ok (~400 $).
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Hm... I don't think using Swiftshader or WARP11 gpu virtualization isn't going to really compensate for the relatively weak IGP, is it?
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Would have made more sense to use an APU or Haswell yes?
Pretty neat to be seeing more of these pocket PC's.
no...the cpus are too crummy for this application. You won't be gaming, nor using these machines with extremely expensive software that gives you GPU acceleration. Intel was a good choice.

AMD is only for dedicated GPUs and ULTRA LOW POWERED markets. That's it. The crappy CPU performance is what is holding back AMD. Pair it with whatever GPU you want, you're major bottleneck is still that CPU. No point in slabbing on in this box as it's just not going to be used.
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no...the cpus are too crummy for this application. You won't be gaming, nor using these machines with extremely expensive software that gives you GPU acceleration. Intel was a good choice.

AMD is only for dedicated GPUs and ULTRA LOW POWERED markets. That's it. The crappy CPU performance is what is holding back AMD. Pair it with whatever GPU you want, you're major bottleneck is still that CPU. No point in slabbing on in this box as it's just not going to be used.

An APU is more than sufficient for light tasks. I've tried an i3 and an A4 laptop before, relatively minimal difference in non-gaming tasks. Price difference? The i3 laptop cost around $50 more.
Edited by A Bad Day - 5/28/13 at 1:22pm
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this would make an awesome Pfsense or moonwall router / firewall ! this is exactly what ive been looking for. Apart from uber expensive ultrabooks no cpu offers such low wattage not even an undervolted atom. they all need an itx chassis and a few fans. I dont know the price but if its cheap i think this would perform the task mentioned really well, whilst keeping cool and silent near your existing kit where its on show and any noise would be heard. a raspberry pi isnt great for pfsense atm, its been done but not with great results.
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Slap a APU on it and you got me sold.
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Slap a APU on it and you got me sold.

If the 17W TDPs of the chips above is a hard limit, then there's no way AMD would be able to offer any improvements for 3 out of the 4 Gigabyte models.

Remember that 15W Kabini doesn't do well against Intel's i3-3217U, which is a slower variant of most of these.

Edit: Actually, there seems to be some 17W APU models that haven't been tested yet, so who knows what the future brings.
Edited by mavere - 5/28/13 at 2:06pm
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Don't forget about the fch adding tdp as well, vs kabini SoC models. An a6-5200 might do ok, but they are still little cores. ULV Richland could also fit tdp, technically.
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If the 17W TDPs of the chips above is a hard limit, then there's no way AMD would be able to offer any improvements for 3 out of the 4 Gigabyte models.

Remember that 15W Kabini doesn't do well against Intel's i3-3217U, which is a slower variant of most of these.

Edit: Actually, there seems to be some 17W APU models that haven't been tested yet, so who knows what the future brings.

After the whole Atom w/ PowerVR graphics fiasco, I don't trust Intel to deliver proper LINUX drivers (even though the HD4000 series IGP is native intel technology).

Jaguar based (Kabini) true-quad-core-SOC ...
GX-415GA ? 4 1.5 GHz N/A 2 MB ? ? HD 8330E ? 500 MHz ? 15 W June 1, 2013

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Accelerated_Processing_Unit_microprocessors#.22Kabini.22_.282013.2C_28nm.29
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Cool little sucker. Price will be what ultimately determines if this is feasible for an HTPC though. Good chance this will crush current ARM based options in that market if MSRP is right.
    
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