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Hi. I plan on building my first PC over the summer. It's main use will be for games, movies, etc, but ill be using it for college too. Ive picked out a few parts already.
Im looking for advice for the cooling in the particular.

Case: Bitfenix Prodigy
CPU: intel 3570k
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe

Id like 8GB of ram, any recommendations there?
Id like a very good air cooler so that the system is quiet. I will probably overclock the cpu eventually.
What kind of power supply would i need for this? Would i need any extra fans for the case?

Thanks.
post #2 of 16
Congrats on getting started on your first build! I'll have a few recommendations up within 20 minutes.

EDIT: Build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.07 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($176.43 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($78.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $809.44
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-28 12:14 EDT-0400)

Noctua NH-D14 because you asked for a quiet air cooler that would allow overclocking. One of the quietest things on the market and a lot of overclock headroom. This will fit in the Prodigy.

Corsair Vengeance LP (Low Profile) memory so that it will fit under the gigantic air cooler.

500W Corsair PSU should be more than enough if you are not looking to expand anytime soon.

In terms of extra fans, I have not the slightest idea.
Edited by 0CALEFACTION0 - 5/28/13 at 9:17am
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Unless you really know what you are doing, I would recommend using 1600MHz RAM instead of 1866 because Ivy Bridge natively runs RAM at 1600.
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I would like to offer a slightly different choice.

I will start with the parts that I agree with.

i5 3570K

corsair CX500 watt PSU

bitfenix prodigy.

This is for the parts I would get for the build.

First off is the motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157312 . It is still mini ITX, and it will still overclock just as well as the asus board (the weird little board for the vrm does not work as well as people think) but it is ~40 bucks cheaper.

Since the mobo also comes with 8GB of free ram, that takes care of that problem. That also saves you around 50 bucks as well.

Cooler: H80i. It performs better than the NH-D14 and is not a whole lot louder.

GPU: with the extra money saved from the ram and mobo, try to get an AMD 7950 and OC it to the moon http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202026

What are you going to do for your hard drive?
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Originally Posted by Tjj226 Angel View Post

I would like to offer a slightly different choice.

I will start with the parts that I agree with.

i5 3570K

corsair CX500 watt PSU

bitfenix prodigy.

This is for the parts I would get for the build.

First off is the motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157312 . It is still mini ITX, and it will still overclock just as well as the asus board (the weird little board for the vrm does not work as well as people think) but it is ~40 bucks cheaper.

Since the mobo also comes with 8GB of free ram, that takes care of that problem. That also saves you around 50 bucks as well.

Cooler: H80i. It performs better than the NH-D14 and is not a whole lot louder.

GPU: with the extra money saved from the ram and mobo, try to get an AMD 7950 and OC it to the moon http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202026

What are you going to do for your hard drive?
I have heard that ASRock's VRMS suck, are you sure the board will oc fine? I would get a H80i though.
Edited by PCunicorn - 5/29/13 at 12:46pm
    
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Hey, check out this thread for help with good OCN member recommended parts:

-Guide- Selecting parts for a PC

its just getting started but theres already a lot listed. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by 0CALEFACTION0 View Post

Congrats on getting started on your first build! I'll have a few recommendations up within 20 minutes.

EDIT: Build

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.07 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($176.43 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($78.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $809.44
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-05-28 12:14 EDT-0400)

I agree with this except for the 1866 RAM and the Noctua. I would suggest going with an H80i as was stated in the thread and then you don't have to worry about low profile RAM, if you want to get crazy you could throw a H100i in there. You can also fit a 200mm fan on the front of the prodigy and that will maximize air flow with little noise. I also second the suggestion of going with that Sapphire 7950, beast of a GPU and it will OC like a champ. Here is a link with the comparisons between the two GPU's suggested, 7950 vs 660 or 7950 vs 660Ti. The 7950 holds its own against these two GPU's; it is not even OC'ed for the tests. One last comment, I would not suggest trying to save money on the MoBo, the ASUS is one of the better Mini-ITX boards out there and great for OC'ing.
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post #9 of 16
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Thanks for the replies. Im a bit intimidated by water cooling. What's the maintenance like on those things? For hard drives i was thinking a 128GB solid state and a 1TB+ HD.
Edited by Wiseman101 - 5/30/13 at 12:18pm
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Originally Posted by Wiseman101 View Post

Thanks for the replies. Im a bit intimidated by water cooling. What's the maintenance like on those things? For hard drives i was thinking a 128GB solid state and a 1TB+ HD.

The aforementioned water cooling recommendation is what is known as a "closed loop" water cooling solution. These systems do not need any maintenance at all. It is good to go from the box... all you need to do is follow the instructions to hook it up. smile.gif

I have never used these cooling products before, but many on OCN have. They do not complain. However, there comes a point when they decide to go to the custom water cooling route. smile.gif
    
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