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And then what happens when you start overvolting your CPU?

I admit I'm not all too familiar with how much heat is generated typically, but I would think that high overclocks on high volts would benefit from better heatsinks.
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And then what happens when you start overvolting your CPU?

I admit I'm not all too familiar with how much heat is generated typically, but I would think that high overclocks on high volts would benefit from better heatsinks.

For normal overclocking on air or water, SB and IB CPUs didn't pull enough power to really heat up the VRMs.
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And then what happens when you start overvolting your CPU?

I admit I'm not all too familiar with how much heat is generated typically, but I would think that high overclocks on high volts would benefit from better heatsinks.

My X79 Sabertooths got soo hot running 5000mhz/1.45v that they set off the alarms in the in built ASUS software 80-90deg. With that being said though I've been running them like that for over a year and board is totally fine.

From now on all my motherboards will be watercooled whether it's fine for them to operate at temperatures like that (up to 120deg) or not.
    
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And then what happens when you start overvolting your CPU?

I admit I'm not all too familiar with how much heat is generated typically, but I would think that high overclocks on high volts would benefit from better heatsinks.

Best keep a fire extinguisher next to your PC tongue.gif

Though in reality MSI is alright, too bad I am already sold on the Gigabyte OC boards. The Orange and Black and watercooling, what else can a man ask for. biggrin.gif

MSI makes killer Graphic cards though, For air cooling those twinfrozer cards are top notch. MSI, Saphire, and EVGA are the 3 brands I trust most in the graphic card world.
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Best keep a fire extinguisher next to your PC tongue.gif

Though in reality MSI is alright, too bad I am already sold on the Gigabyte OC boards. The Orange and Black and watercooling, what else can a man ask for. biggrin.gif

MSI makes killer Graphic cards though, For air cooling those twinfrozer cards are top notch. MSI, Saphire, and EVGA are the 3 brands I trust most in the graphic card world.

Uhhh, in terms of class, for video cards, there is no debate about this

EVGA, ASUS - top tier

Sapphire, MSI, Gigabyte - 2nd tier

HIS, XFX - 3rd tier

etc etc

Sapphire and MSI make good cards, I've owned a Sapphire 5770 and 6950, but they are not in the class of EVGA and ASUS when it comes to warranties, aftermarket coolers, higher quality components

MSI is close in terms of the components, but ASUS and EVGA are definitely higher up than MSI

Having said that, all of the companies in the 1st 4 tier's make great cards

Now what I'm wondering is, what's up with all these recent companies like Gainward, and the few others that have been popping up.

Im really interested in who's affiliated with the diff companies and all.
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Uhhh, in terms of class, for video cards, there is no debate about this

EVGA, ASUS - top tier

Sapphire, MSI, Gigabyte - 2nd tier

HIS, XFX - 3rd tier

etc etc

Sapphire and MSI make good cards, I've owned a Sapphire 5770 and 6950, but they are not in the class of EVGA and ASUS when it comes to warranties, aftermarket coolers, higher quality components

MSI is close in terms of the components, but ASUS and EVGA are definitely higher up than MSI

Having said that, all of the companies in the 1st 4 tier's make great cards

Now what I'm wondering is, what's up with all these recent companies like Gainward, and the few others that have been popping up.

Im really interested in who's affiliated with the diff companies and all.

And you have graphs to prove this, right? My MSI 7950 is a fantastic overclocker on air and I'm positive I could get a little more out of it with water.

I've yet to see a 780 or 770 roundup yet, just them all individually.
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And you have graphs to prove this, right? My MSI 7950 is a fantastic overclocker on air and I'm positive I could get a little more out of it with water.

I've yet to see a 780 or 770 roundup yet, just them all individually.

You're kidding right... why are you offended? Christ.

I was talking in terms of components, warranties, aftermarket coolers, internal components, etc, ASUS and EVGA tend to be above all others, doesn't mean MSI doesn't make great cards. Their Lightnings, along with their Twin Frozr coolers are great.

Ease up dude. Life's short.
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Uhhh, in terms of class, for video cards, there is no debate about this

EVGA, Sapphire, MSI - top tier

Gigabyte, Asus - 2nd tier

HIS, XFX - 3rd tier

etc etc

Sapphire and MSI make good cards, I've owned a Sapphire 5770 and 6950, but they are not in the class of EVGA and ASUS when it comes to warranties, aftermarket coolers, higher quality components

MSI is close in terms of the components, but ASUS and EVGA are definitely higher up than MSI

Having said that, all of the companies in the 1st 4 tier's make great cards

Now what I'm wondering is, what's up with all these recent companies like Gainward, and the few others that have been popping up.

Im really interested in who's affiliated with the diff companies and all.

Fixed tongue.gif

Personally I wouldn't touch a Asus Card, and I stopped using their mobo's long ago. Going Gigabyte for my next mobo on 1150, only using intel board as it came with my CPU but my old gigabyte ud3p still is going strong in my HTPC.
Also I view Sapphire in the same ranks as EVGA, Though EVGA isn't perfect my evga 8800gt died though that was just a problem with the 8800gt's in general.
Also MSI lightning cards are pretty much the best cards you can get.

Also don't forget that EVGA still makes ref cards for the most part, and ref design/quality doesn't really change that much between vendors. Really the only thing your getting is the possibility of having a better binned chip. Though if I was going for a AMD card it would be a Sapphire or MSI, for Nvidia it would be EVGA or MSI. EVGA and Sapphire are good for ref cards, if you want to toss a block on, but those twin forzer cards are pretty decent when it comes to aftermarket cooling. EVGA tends to be ref on most of their cards, so the cooling factor tends to be a lot lower then the rest.
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Uhhh, in terms of class, for video cards, there is no debate about this

EVGA, ASUS - top tier

Sapphire, MSI, Gigabyte - 2nd tier

HIS, XFX - 3rd tier

etc etc

Sapphire and MSI make good cards, I've owned a Sapphire 5770 and 6950, but they are not in the class of EVGA and ASUS when it comes to warranties, aftermarket coolers, higher quality components

MSI is close in terms of the components, but ASUS and EVGA are definitely higher up than MSI

Having said that, all of the companies in the 1st 4 tier's make great cards

Now what I'm wondering is, what's up with all these recent companies like Gainward, and the few others that have been popping up.

Im really interested in who's affiliated with the diff companies and all.

Sorry mate but an MSI Lightning GPU is as good as any GPU from any manufacturer in every possible way. You could even debate it's the best sub brand GPU available.

Gigabyte, MSI, ASUS and EVGA are all top tier GPU manufacturers (with the exception of maybe ASUSs warranty). That is what's 'not up for debate'.

But enough about that and since you're new around here, a quick tip. Try and stay on topic. This has nothing to do with the X Power motherboard.
    
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