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I'm going to be building a Haswell based PC as soon as I can get my grubby little hands on the hardware, but before I decide on the RAM I was wondering how it would affect my folding. I read somewhere that timing was more important and somewhere else that bandwidth was... both posts were outdated though. What does OCN have to say on the matter?

I'm getting a 4770k and was wondering if the 3770k's were still getting any bigadv or if that fell off with the 12-core requirement. If the WU's are still around do they prefer speed or tighter timings?

I'm pretty set on a 2x8GB kit, and was hoping to keep it <= $150. Suggestions?

PS it looks like the CPU and mobo may be available locally over the weekend... so I may buy the RAM tonight if I think I can get it before Sunday

Edited by Go Gators! - 5/28/13 at 4:55pm
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Nope, a 4770k won't work for bigadv.

The MINIMUM is currently a 3930k or higher at 4.8 GHz + I believe, and that just barely makes the deadlines.

As for RAM speeds, I don't think they affect PPD much at all, at least from what I've seen.
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Yea, I think if I can get some 1866 MHz @ CL 9 I'll be golden. I've been eyeing these G.Skill Snipers for a while. Maybe it's time to pull the trigger!
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I ended up buying that G.Skill memory... That puts we one step closer to the new rig wheee.gif
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The 4770k won't be able to run bid advantage, but running normal smp units, higher ram speed won't help a4 units, but it may gain you a few k ppd on a3 units
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Yea, thanks for the info. I bought the G.Skill Sniper 2 x 8GB kit @ 1866 MHz. & 9-10-9-28. Should give me everything I was looking for (some room to run a VM or two. Maybe even a RAMdisk?) and it was the right price. We'll see what the 4770k can do soon enough. I'm really hoping the local shops have them (and the mobo I want) in stock this weekend or early next week. Fingers crossed!
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