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Finally I have the money for a CaseLabs and the shipping!
Now it´s time to earn money for taxes xD

I have some questions here about the TH10 and other products

Why no XL-ATX motherboard tray for this case?
Will a conversion kit be availiable in the future?

Any reason why it isn´t poisible to get any case flat-packed? (only interested on TH10, but I guess it´s the same reason for all)
I already read that flat packing is more expensive as the shipping cost is determinated by weight more than volume, but it would be nice being able to get the case unassembled (I have always been big fan of Lego xD) and painting will be easier this way (for those who want to do it).

If I order the case with the "USB 3.0/HD Audio" I/O panell, will I still get the one with only holes for power and reset buttons?

The standard MAC-101 HDD cage, included with the case if choosen, can hold up to four 3.5" drives.
What´s the diference between MAC-124 and MAC-322?
I see the maximun thickness of the 2,5" dives changes, but will both accesories allow me to install 4 of them in the same MAC-101 drive cage?
(I would use two MAC_124/MAC_322 and one or two 3,5" hard drives)

Is there something like MAC-161/MAC-162/MAC-383 for the PSU side of the TH10?
Would two MAC-383 be like one MAC-161?
And what about MAC-113 + MAC-162?


I think that´s all xD sorry for so much questions, but I´m trying to make an order with all I need, so I don´t have to pay 2 times the shipping.

How I hate paying taxes when I import something that isn´t availiable here T_T
Edited by STUNT1990 - 5/29/13 at 2:42am
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Let me try to address your questions:

The TH10 was designed for HPTX compatibility. We may consider an XL-ATX variant, but it's a couple of months away (if at all). Because of the way the TH10 is constructed, there will not be a retrofit kit.

The TH10 is precision aligned and riveted together at the factory. It is not designed to be flat-packed. The same is true for the M8, M10, MH10 and T10. TBH, we didn't realize the amount of international interest there would be. The newer designs all allow for flat-pack shipping.

You get the switch plate the matches the option chosen either with or without the I/O panel.

The MAC-124 and MAC-322 are very similar. The MAC-322 will accommodate thicker drives (more important for 2.5" HDD's). The MAC-124 is a little stiffer, but may be eventually phased out.

There are no radiator mounts for the front of the PSU side of the TH10 although I have seen 360's mounted in our cases, by using the center fan as the mount. The spacing does not support mounting radiators directly. The mounts are intended for HDD cages.

Two MAC-383 mounts will not work for a 480 (center spacing will be off). For that use the 480 mount.

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Thank you for your answers.
I think I will be able to make my order the next week ^^

EDIT: Just a couple of questions more... they are pretty obious but just in case...
MAC-213 and MAC-158.
Anything that fits on the 158 will fit on the 213?

If I order a revese TH10, and I want the fan on my PSU poiting to the HDD side panel, I should order the reverse PSU mount?
Edited by STUNT1990 - 5/29/13 at 3:39pm
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The MAC-213 is simply an adjustable version of the MAC-158.

The PSU support should have the same orientation as the case (i.e. a reverse case would use the reverse support).

Hope that helps wink.gif
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Yes, it does, thank you.
One more request; could you post a picture of the TH10 with XXL window on the PSU side?
And, if it isn´t too much trouble, with a PSU installed (also name it so I can compare mine and see where my PSU fan would be placed)

EDIT: hmm.. another question. Are all the motherboard trays the same? Could I fit, for example, the XL-ATX motherboard tray from MAC-267 in the TH10? (leaving a huge hole on the front)
Edited by STUNT1990 - 5/29/13 at 9:23pm
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Getting a picture like that may be tough. We don't have any finished inventory (which is one reason we have a hard time with pictures in general). We're a JIT (Just-in-Time) manufacturer and all of our cases are made to order. Without an order to drive it, nothing gets made.

The XL-ATX tray would fit but as you noted, there would be a very large gap...
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post #7 of 9
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That gap may be easier to hide than the hole on the HPTX tray.
Then I can get the MAC-106 tech station, remove the feet and just slide it on the TH10, right? will it fit with the CPU hole cover? (is the CPU cover included with the tech station?)

I understand the issue with the pictures, then you might as well be unable to answer this question :S
What´s the clearance between a standard 86mm tall PSU and the window? will it be enough for the PSU to breathe?
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The MAC-106 tech station could be used as a replacement tray (and includes the cover plate). Just remove the rubber feet when using it in the case.

The PSU has about an inch of clearance to the door, so there is adequate room for it to breathe, especially if you mount a fan below it to help supply fresh air (using the integrated 120.4 mount on the bottom of the case).
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Thank you very much once again wink.gif
In one or two weeks I will order the reverse TH10 with XXL window in both sides with the XL-ATX tech station and some other accesories ^^
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