Originally Posted by perfectblade
whats the difference between ea+dice. dice=ea, if there bosses tell them to say something they will say it. i just don't see what's unique about bf3, i mean the devs certain tools to create maps in the game in the first place anyway. you honestly think it will happen at this point, when they are trying to push every one onto bf4???
it's not like it would be the first time ea has done this. remember mass effect? if something is being planned out and created far before the release of a game, why not include it in the game? oh wait so because you can't subsequently charge them extra for something that would normally be included in the vanilla game
When you're not a public relations person, you have no obligation to go on forums to say anything especially on unofficial forums not owned by DICE/EA. If anything, they would be told not to say anything at all and let the PR people do all the talking.
For the last time, I don't know when it would happen. They could release tools or a map editor for BF4 or they could do it for the next one after that or it could never happen at all if they can't figure everything out. They have to deal with re-licensing (again.. not easily solved even with money) and then developing the tools when they get the greenlight to since the tools they use are not consolidated into one package. They also want it to be user friendly as well as have a place, kind of like Steam Workshop, where users can easily install mods. There's just a lot of factors why it hasn't been done yet (not why it can't be done). It has nothing to do with EA supposedly losing money from people not buying DLCs, because there's plenty of evidence out there that this wouldn't be the case and both DICE and EA know this.
The fact that BioWare and EA got a lot of flack for that DLC will make EA very hesitant from doing it again. EA does learn from its mistakes, believe it or not. Just look at the whole online pass thing. It wasn't very well received so they're dropping it as well as giving away DLC that was blocked behind the pass for free. If they do have day one DLC, it will be something small and more than likely a preorder incentive like the Physical Warfare pack for BF3, which funnily enough, was given away for free after a short period of being exclusive to people who preordered (meaning it was never any extra cost to the consumers).
Originally Posted by splinterize
Go try CS: GO. It's 15 bucks. You get free updates, free map packs, free new game modes and there is no ''new'' iteration every year.
There hasn't been that many free maps and modes
Also, it's probably much cheaper to develop for CS:GO than it is Battlefield (smaller and simpler maps), hence why they can get away with giving away content for free. Not to mention.. it's Valve. They have Steam and don't rely on game sales at all.
Don't get me wrong, though. I love
Counter Strike:GO as well as the others.