Originally Posted by perfectblade
really? how come bethesda manages to dev tools out to players everytime? why were devs in the past always able to?
i'm not saying releasing such tools is free, but to say that it is somehow prohibitively expensive, well it obviously isn't. which is why it is simply intentionally avoided to make us pay $5 for a map, when in the past we would have gotten it for free
It's not just expensive to do, though. DICE doesn't just use an all-in-one package like Bethesda does for creating their game worlds and some of the software wouldn't easily be re-licensed out, even with a bunch of money. The Frostbite engine and Gamebryo/Creation engine are very
different and one is a lot more complicated than the other. There are just a lot of factors for why we haven't seen any form of a mod tools for the Frostbite engine.. yet. From what I understand, it's actually something that's brought up quite often at DICE and they simply want to do it right, which will take a lot of time, money, and resources. It's something we might actually see in the future, though.
On the topic of DLC/Premium prices.. Honestly, $50 is a hell of a deal for pretty much doubling the amount of multiplayer content in the game. It's really not much different than how much content you got for BF2 when getting the expansion+boosters. The big difference being that a lot more work and money goes into these DLCs. Premium was also an excellent solution to not completely splitting the community with DLC. Instead of having a bunch of people mixing and matching DLC, you have a lot of people simply paying for one whole package. If you were lucky, you got it for a lot less than $50 too. I only paid $25.
Originally Posted by rpsgc
Did you just compare Battlefield 2's expansion to these DLC? Seriously? The Booster Packs (Euro Force and Armored Fury) == current DLC. 'Special Forces' was much more than these DLC.
If people can't tell the difference between DLC (which technically can be anything as long as it's downloadable) and a proper expansion, then I pity them.
And Bad Company 2 had free map packs. And considering current Battlefield 'DLC' is nothing but half a dozen maps with recycled assets and maybe, maybe
, a new weapon skin, sorry, new weapon
, and a new vehicle skin, sorry, new vehicle, is it really that CRAZY to expect them for free, or CHEAPER
But no amount of facts will ever change the minds of the DLC defenders and apologists. *sigh*
Recycled assets? Considering your stance against DLC, I'm assuming you haven't actually played any of the new maps. There are quite a few new assets. Heck, Back To Karkand had to have every one of its maps recreated for the Frostbite engine. It wasn't as easy as just copy and pasting everything.
Yes, you are crazy and have entitlement problems if you expect the DLC to be free or even cheaper. It wasn't just a new weapon skin here and a new vehicle there. There's 20 new maps, 10 new vehicles, 21 new weapons (or 20 + 1 gadget that's pretty much a weapon) and a few other things here and there. You get a lot of content for your money.
and no.. I'm no DLC defender/apologist. I would never pay the same price for CoD DLC which contains a lot less content.
I really like this quote.
“The reason people find it so hard to be happy is that they always see the past better than it was, the present worse than it is, and the future less resolved than it will be.”Edited by moocowman - 5/31/13 at 8:22am