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All the stats and vitals they've released for it thus far make it sound like a rebadged EVGA GTX 680 SC, Signature 2 with a slightly faster GPU clock and slightly faster memory modules... doesn't sound like it's going to be all that impressive without a low price tag like everyone wants to see.


There's also this...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1395665/iq-gtx-770-close-to-the-radeon-hd-7970-ghz#post_20071263
Edited by SpacemanSpliff - 5/29/13 at 4:22pm
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post #52 of 112
Quote:
Originally Posted by SpacemanSpliff View Post

All the stats and vitals they've released for it thus far make it sound like a rebadged EVGA GTX 680 SC, Signature 2 with a slightly faster GPU clock and slightly faster memory modules... doesn't sound like it's going to be all that impressive without a low price tag like everyone wants to see.


There's also this...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1395665/iq-gtx-770-close-to-the-radeon-hd-7970-ghz#post_20071263

1600p benchmarks lachen.gif

Cant wait to hear all the amd fans excuses when the nda drops
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post #53 of 112
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Originally Posted by Stay Puft View Post

Dont know any 670's that come with 7000mhz effective memory. The 770 isnt simply a rebadge. It comes with faster memory module's

when I went from 6200 to 7400MHz effective on 670 the real world peformance wasn't as drastic as I'd expect even at Surround resolution...I'm assuming it has to do with the malnutritioned 256-bit

Anyways I was comparing the 670 to the rumoured 760ti specs
     
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post #54 of 112
I see no reason why someone would want to buy this over a 7970.

~Same price point.

7970 is faster.

7970 has 3GB on a 384-bit interface.

If these specifications on the 770 are correct, then this is a card for the die hard Nvidia buyers who only buy Nvidia, because ti is Nvidia. Obviously if you throw in SLi vs Crossfire performance, than that changes things as AMD is still trying to work on that problem. But in a single card situation, it just doesn't make any sense. If/When AMD fixes their Crossfire issue, then it won't make any sense in any situations.

It really comes across as Nvidia releasing a product that is on par with a ~2 year old product......

Am I missing something Alatar? Help me out here.
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Originally Posted by Stay Puft View Post

1600p benchmarks lachen.gif

Cant wait to hear all the amd fans excuses when the nda drops

This test, and that link, bring up this thought (for myself at least).

If the 770 is more or less a re-branded and slightly OC'ed 680, what sort of headroom is left for OC on the 770?
Edited by PostalTwinkie - 5/29/13 at 5:50pm
    
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I see no reason why someone would want to buy this over a 7970.

~Same price point.

7970 is faster.

7970 has 3GB on a 384-bit interface.

If these specifications on the 770 are correct, then this is a card for the die hard Nvidia buyers who only buy Nvidia, because ti is Nvidia. Obviously if you throw in SLi vs Crossfire performance, than that changes things as AMD is still trying to work on that problem. But in a single card situation, it just doesn't make any sense. If/When AMD fixes their Crossfire issue, then it won't make any sense in any situations.

It really comes across as Nvidia releasing a product that is on par with a ~2 year old product......

Am I missing something Alatar? Help me out here.
This test, and that link, bring up this thought (for myself at least).

If the 770 is more or less a re-branded and slightly OC'ed 680, what sort of headroom is left for OC on the 770?

It all depends on the memory. If it's indeed faster memory module's im not sure very much. 100 more mhz? On the core i'm sure 1200 core should be doable.
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post #56 of 112
Maybe the Higher GB memory cards will be $450 and the stock reference ones will be $400. Either way, the 760Ti still seems like a better deal at $300.. but if they try to make it $350 I'm outta here.
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Looking at PCCG's site, I'm not at all surprised that the EVGA 780s have sold out. An "Australia Tax" of under 15% is pretty noteworthy for such a new card...
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I see no reason why someone would want to buy this over a 7970.

~Same price point.

7970 is faster.

7970 has 3GB on a 384-bit interface.

If these specifications on the 770 are correct, then this is a card for the die hard Nvidia buyers who only buy Nvidia, because ti is Nvidia. Obviously if you throw in SLi vs Crossfire performance, than that changes things as AMD is still trying to work on that problem. But in a single card situation, it just doesn't make any sense. If/When AMD fixes their Crossfire issue, then it won't make any sense in any situations.

It really comes across as Nvidia releasing a product that is on par with a ~2 year old product......

People will pick it up for the same reasons they picked up a 680 over a 7970 at a higher price point. ( Whatever those reasons are tongue.gif )

This isn't scientific but gives you a rough idea...



Keep in mind that considering the game bundles that come with AMD cards, Radeon users would be more likely to use Steam to activate their games.
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Um...no? What perks aside from Compute performance. 7970GHz has been around what 10-15 percent ahead of GTX 680 at most when OC'd. So considering the GTX 770 comes in at around that increase stock, and can still OC, it offers a significant deal compared to the 7970GHz if they were equally priced.

Lets not also forget PhysX which I find stunning games that support it, as well as the Frame Time issues amd is still battling according to their own statements.....


First off Nvidia took a GTX680 and just OCed it to match a 7970GE. The 7970GE has always have the OC advantage before, while the 770 might OC better now that it has more voltage, GCN still gains more from a overclock then kepler does. Add in More bandwidth and video memory and you have a card that is clearly the better card to get for any 1440p+ user, or simply any person that like to use a good amount of AA or whats to prepare for the future onslaught of games using lot of memory.



Also Don't forget Physx is mostly a gimmick, I have it and used in on most physx games. While cool, it really doesn't add much. Some games it adds a nice effect, but half the time those effects bring performance decreases and other problems. Really the two or three games that take advantage of physx to a worthwhile level is not worth it TBH. Also everything done in Physx could easily be done in OpenCL for both AMD and Intel to use, but Nvidia's lust to force people into proprietary software is down right wrong. For that reason alone I do not like supporting physx or any game that uses it, I would rather have the effect hard coded into the game with opencl or something.


As for the Frame Time aspect, AMD fixed their single card frame times already. Actually In single Card frame times AMD actually does better on most games then Nvidia ATM, so not only did they fix them they stepped up their game. CF should be coming soon as well. Considering that the GTX770 is launching after AMD fixed their frame times, AMD doesn't need to drop their price as they have a equal product.
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