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post #31 of 62
About dang time they backlight. Now I can have the light without modding (gasp!) And it's mostly sold black too!
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Good looking board. thumb.gif Id probably spring for the max if I go Haswell.
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I have to say, this is one impressive board. Although I may skip Little Haswell and get IB-E this september for the core count, I hope they come out with more boards like this instead of the current X79 lineup.
when i read skip haswell and wait ivy-e and seen a 3960x i was like what the heck look at the name and oh nvm its vega he is crazy like i was before my baby's started popping out and my hardware money went to diapers clothes and baby food and to anyone who is expecting a kid say good buy to hardware huggies are the new nvidia titan =)
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post #34 of 62
This will go well with 780 lightenings. I hope MSI isnt changing the color scheme from yellow to red...
 
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Im just hoping that Haswell can oc incredibly well on water. If I can pull 200mhz more out of it for 24/7 Ill jump.
 
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post #36 of 62
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Battlefield 3 doesnt have a built in bench so how do you know without a doubt that every test was exactly the same? The tester could have looked right when he looked left in the other bench causing the deviations.

His test is so good precisely because it's not a canned benchmark. Canned game benchmarks rarely stress the CPU. Multi-player BF3 with 64 players is an awesome test as its very strenuous and is a game that can actually use more than four cores. Yes, there will be some small variations as you move around the map but as long as your sample is over a decent time period, the averages should still give a good representation. His tests also mirror my own. In addition, HT on is worse than HT off as BF3 tries to use those HT cores as real cores and hinders the normal core performance. Crysis 3 / Farcry 3 are also games that hugely benefit from over 4-cores.

Things will only get "worse" for 4-core CPU's with the new consoles coming out and games being more and more multi-threaded. AMD generally does worse not because of their core count, but becuase the architecture and clock speed pales in comparison to Intel's CPU's. Yes, the consoles use AMD CPU's but consoles run games at a paltry 30-60 FPS compared to say myself who plays at a minimum of 120 FPS. With all of these Titan's I find myself CPU limited 90% of the time.
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About dang time they backlight. Now I can have the light without modding (gasp!) And it's mostly sold black too!

Ya, it's pretty sweet and would look great on my open bench display setup.
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when i read skip haswell and wait ivy-e and seen a 3960x i was like what the heck look at the name and oh nvm its vega he is crazy like i was before my baby's started popping out and my hardware money went to diapers clothes and baby food and to anyone who is expecting a kid say good buy to hardware huggies are the new nvidia titan =)

One reason i can afford high end stuff is that I have no kids yet lol.
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Im just hoping that Haswell can oc incredibly well on water. If I can pull 200mhz more out of it for 24/7 Ill jump.

Ya, if I could get ~5.4 GHz out of a de-lidded 4770K I may have to pull the trigger on Haswell and one of these awesome new motherboards. Worst case I have it for a few months and then get IB-E.
Edited by CallsignVega - 5/29/13 at 2:30pm
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haha callsignvega you are addicted.
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post #38 of 62
All these nice boards coming out of MSI, Gigabyte and Asrock. I just hope we don't have to de-lid haswell to get high overclocks and good temperatures.
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post #39 of 62
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Originally Posted by PureBlackFire View Post

All these nice boards coming out of MSI, Gigabyte and Asrock. I just hope we don't have to de-lid haswell to get high overclocks and good temperatures.


IMO these are the types of boards the community was expecting for IVY, p67 to z68 was a downgrade. z77 is what finally started pushing the p67 out of the picture, but these boards have everything you could want.

as far as delidding goes.... i feel it should have started at square one. ivy w cheap thermal paste proved a painful upgrade from sandy sandy w the damn things soldered on. fact of the matter is they shouldve started delidding the chips years ago.

i credit very little oc headroom and temps from gen to gen advancements on arch and design. fact of the matter is without the IHS its proven time and time again that its the better option. AMD and Nvidia have their chips directly against the HS now. take a GTX 460 remove the IHS and do the same thing, what do you know.... temps drop 10-15c "pfffff, just found a golden chip, w 40 extra mhz on the core, did you?"

putting that buffer there hasnt done the last few generations a single favor(not to mention lowering your budget cost on a cooler)
Edited by microfister - 5/29/13 at 5:10pm
    
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I doubt the new chips will have to be delidded for optimal thermals. The problem was never with the TIM to begin with; it was with a gap between the die and the IHS which can easily be fixed.
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