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post #21 of 31
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I must have misread something and of course you are right about the H77 being fully compatible with Ivy Bridge CPUs. I just did a quick volume calculation on the three cases in question and in terms of cubic liters of working space they are: Node 304 - 19.6; Lian Li PC Q27 - 14.4; and SilverStone SG05 - 10.8. Maybe the volume of the Lian Li case is sufficient for an air cooling approach. At any rate with the H77 MoBo, I'm satisfied with all the internal components now and just need a little more time to think about the case. If I do go with the Lian Li I will get a Seasonic S12 PSU. Would love to get the 330W model but NewEgg lists it as out of stock.
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post #22 of 31
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One final question for those of you who have responded (and many thanks to you all!!!). If I do go with the Lian Li passive cooling case, I'm likely only to need a 300W PSU since I won't have a GPU and the installed components will all be low power types. I've not built this kind of system before and don't have any experience with OEM PSUs regarding their quality. Seasonic, my go to brand, makes a couple of 300W PSUs that are likely candidates such as the SS-300ES (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151085). Apparently the 330W S12 is no longer available and for that particular model I would have to go to a 380W PSU which is probably a lot more than I need. Am I good if I select the OEM 300W model? Reviews on NewEgg are quite positive.

thanks again and with a good answer to this one we probably can close this thread out. I'll report back on the final decision and picture of the build!!
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post #23 of 31
If seasonic say it's bronze,it's probably just shy of silver.Go with the OEM psu.
post #24 of 31
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Seasonic, my go to brand, makes a couple of 300W PSUs that are likely candidates such as the SS-300ES (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151085). Apparently the 330W S12 is no longer available and for that particular model I would have to go to a 380W PSU which is probably a lot more than I need. Am I good if I select the OEM 300W model? Reviews on NewEgg are quite positive.

NewEgg reviews are random, usually posted just after purchase, and not based on any scientific tests, just consumer gut-feeling. The SS300ES is not on the OCN recommended list http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies nor has it been reviewed by any respected testers like ChipHell or Jonnyguru. I would go with the S12II 380W to be sure you have a reliable unit.

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If seasonic say it's bronze,it's probably just shy of silver.

Remember that 80plus rating is not directly a measure of the quality of a PSU overall, it's only a measure of how much of the AC current is converted to heat instead of DC. Seasonic are a good PSU manufacturer, but it doesn't automatically follow that their units are all magically more efficient. Especially on a $38 low-power model.

On the Seasonic SS-300ES efficiency was tested at light load 82.07% and typical load 85.35% so it's just barely efficient enough for bronze rated which needs 82% and 85%. To get silver rated it would need 3% more efficient overall, which doesn't sound much, but means all the components together would need be 15%-20% less wasteful. You can see all 80Plus test results here http://www.plugloadsolutions.com/80PlusPowerSupplies.aspx
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post #25 of 31
It's not like he's building a uber powerful rig so the psu is plenty,and it works. But then,I really like the s12 myself and peace of mind is worth something.
post #26 of 31
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The problem appears to be that there is a very slack demand for PSUs under 350W. I think all of us are building systems designed for higher power usuage and certainly there are ample choices for PSU > 450W. A number of the recommended units on the overclock list are no longer available. I'll do some more scouting around but may end up with the Seasonic S12 380W unit.
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post #27 of 31
I believe antec earthwatts has low wattage psus. Those are good.
post #28 of 31
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I believe antec earthwatts has low wattage psus. Those are good.
Seasonic manufacture those particular PSUs for Antec.
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post #29 of 31
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I believe antec earthwatts has low wattage psus. Those are good.
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Seasonic manufacture those particular PSUs for Antec.

Seasonic used to make the Earthwatts, back in 2008 but since a few years the newer models are made by Delta
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Really, was there a quality drop? or same parts different factory?
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