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And they are becoming kind of desperate pursuing that goal...

It's no surprise that Itanium sales are down. That uarch is like the Titanic.

Um no. They're going to stop selling them and there isn't going to be support for it soon, which is pretty important for servers. THATS why they arent selling.
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And they are becoming kind of desperate pursuing that goal...

It's no surprise that Itanium sales are down. That uarch is like the Titanic.

Not really... Intel recognized that manycore is the future about a decade ago. GPUs have a massive headstart here and Intel is doing the groundwork to prevent being locked out.

OP misses the point of Phi.... You can take existing multi-threaded code and recompile for the Phi today. Hardware is cheap... human capital is expensive. It takes skilled programers time to optimize new or immature API, language, or paradigm. Large projects generally have more of the cash than the master programmers or time. Having 100TFLOPS is meaningless if it is hard to exploit.
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Hm, would be interesting to see Phi vs HSA vs CUDA.
Edited by A Bad Day - 5/29/13 at 8:39pm
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Hm, would be interesting to see Phi vs HSA vs CUDA.

Xeon Phi is hardware.
HSA is a design concept.
CUDA is a platform and API.

It would be like asking to compare "Dictionary vs vs Translation Manual"
Edited by DuckieHo - 5/29/13 at 8:51pm
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Xeon Phi is hardware.
HSA is a design concept.
CUDA is a platform and API.

It would be like asking to compare "Dictionary vs vs Translation Manual"

CUDA: Only available on Nividia GPUs
HSA: Only available on AMD's Kaveri and console APUs

Three different ways of achieving many-core computations...
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CUDA: Only available on Nividia GPUs
HSA: Only available on AMD's Kaveri and console APUs

Three different ways of achieving many-core computations...

You still can't compare a piece of hardware against a API....

HSA will be available for much more than AMD APUs.

Again... you are attempting to compare different things. If you want a comparison... you need to say something like:
1) C++ compiled for Xeon Phi
2) C++ CUDA on a NVIDIA Titan
3) C++ AMP/HSA on the top-end AMD Kaveri

Or you can say OpenCL performance on Xeon Phi vs NVDIA Titan vs top-end AMD Kaveri.

Get it? You were asking to compare an API, design, vs hardware.....
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