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post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by m1ndb3nd3r View Post


The reason for a server board is for reliability not for speed. When running a file server the NIC's play a big role. Server NIC's run faster for certain things.

You need reliability just for VERY serious things, I mean, of course big servers don´t have low end desktop mobos, but for a home server you don´t need such things, he will just be streaming video, with a normal mobo and a light cpu it will be more than enought, he is not going to fold or render with cad...

post #12 of 15
For pure media server for serving streaming htpcs/media streamers, i would go with Unraid or WHS2011+Flexraid, about the same cost overall, Unraid has been very popular among home media servers for a long time, has a great forum with very helpful community. Im about to rebuild my WHSv1 to WHS2011 more for support for 4tb hdds, i decided this route as i have a very good experience with WHS, i have about 18tb of blu ray on it, my first fase is to increase to 40tb with 8x 4tb and then probably another 8 in a year or two.

Check the following thread for a really nice unraid media setup, My unRAID Servers (83TB Total). Also check unraid forums to get some more info.
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Budget: Maximum $2K (less is always better)
2k for everything including hdds? Seagate 4tb you can find on sale around $150, but WD/Hitachi are more in line of $200... so thats $1800 just for storage. Depending on the OS you can go up gradually, Unraid and whs2011/flexraid will allow you to increase the storage pool as your need grows, so this should help into not needing to get all the storage hdds at once, and keep the server with in your budget.

A single green drive is good enough to stream to mulitple PC, probably even sustain to serve 3 or 4 pcs. So my suggestion is to save some on the hdds and go with WD reds or Seagate the new 4tb 5900rpm.
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My idea was to use a 128GB Samsung 840 SSD for the OS and any programs needed (Most likely running a Linux Server)
The ssd will have very little impact on the server performance, depending on the OS you go with it might not be worth it. For example unraid is booted from USB, you can use a cache drive to avoid the slow write times (reads are as fast as you hdds are), but ssd imo is not worth it. On whs2011+flexraid, you will boot faster and windows will be more responsive... but the server will be fine without it, if you add HBAs to the server, it will increase the load time... so ssd will still subrtract some on the loading.... but wont be a big thing. Im still going with ssd but the main reason is i had it from a laptop i sold, and i have the sata ports to spare it.
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Currently I have a HTPC which is running 4 internal 3TB HDD that are MAXED and 3 3TB external Seagate HDD that are additional storage. Currently this is all backed up on additional Seagate Externals, but all of these drives have become very well....cumbersome so I figured it was time to go the Home server route.
I would probably start with what you have atm, get some 4tb hdds for parity and for storage and use the your current 3tb to start your server, as you you grow your server add more 4tb, at the end you can even swap out the 3tb for bigger drives, but atm i think you could use your current drives fine, specially with os like unraid and whs2011+flexraid that will allow you unmatched hdds.

My suggestion if you want to grow in time, is to invest in a good solid case, its very expensive, but you will be set for future. Norco 4224 or 4220 are really good server chassis that will allow a lot of hdds. If you dont want to spend that much or dont think you will need 20 hdd or more... then look into Rosewill RSV-L4411. Also get a good solid PSU, with a single rail with high amps, Seasonic G550 is a decent PSU and not that expensive, should be good for your planned 9 hdd setup, but if you go into more hdds could be better to invest in higher watt psu.

Motherboard, if you plan on staying around 8hdds, there are some cheap mobos that might work out fine, like ASRock B75 PRO3-M, comes with 8 sata ports (1 intel sata III, 2 asmedia sata III, the rest are sata II), paired with a Intel Celeron G1610 should be a cheap and decent combo, you can add pcie cards as you grow. If you want server grade mobos, then look into SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SCM-F-O or the newer Supermicro X9SCM-IIF-O. Memory will depend into what OS you end up, some like a lot some dont matter much. Check the OS of you choice for support for the built in network card, in most cheap mobos will be realtek that not always plays good with some OS, but you can always add a PCIe network card like Intel EXPI9301CTBLK Network Adapter 10/ 100/ 1000Mbps PCI-Express 1x.
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Intel Xeon E3-1230 SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SCM-F-O Matrox G200eW Kingston 4GB ECC DDR3 1333 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
8x Hitachi 5K3000 2TB + 6x Samsung HD154UI 1.5TB Thermalright AXP-140 WHSv1 Antec CP-850 
CaseOther
Antec 1200 + 4x Cooler Master 4 in 3 2x Intel SASUC8I 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i3-2100T Intel DH61DLB3 Intel HD2000 Kingston HyperX LoVo 4GB DDR1333 
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post #13 of 15
Personally I would use Vmware ESXi community edition and virtualize everything you would need.

For a storage OS I would use Solaris 11.1 seeming as it has the latest version of ZFS and has support for napp-it, a web gui for the raid-z and server maintenance, raid-z2 which is a software raid version of raid5 would be a good option to go for and does not suffer from the write hole as hardware raid 5 does.

For hard drives you could be able to reuse your 3tb seagates. I would not use 4TB drives unless you are really running out of space as raid rebuild times would be a lot longer with these drives in comparison to 3TB drives. I also think that a ssd is a waste for an OS drive as you will not feel the benefits I think a hdd would be the way to go for this. But if you want to use a SSD you should be alright with an Intel, Samsung or even a Plextor M5 pro. Raid card wise a relatively inexpensive IBM M1015 flashed to IT mode should be fine, they go on eBay for roughly $100. These cards have a large following with the FreeNAS guys. I have never really looked into UnRaid or FlexRAid so I can't really comment on them.

For a motherboard I would use a consumer 1155 board, possibly a Gigabyte Z77 D3 with an Intel Xeon E3-1245 V2 with P4000 graphics, fairly low power consumption. With 16GB of ram, ZFS uses a lot of ram.
post #14 of 15
if you still in limbo, I would sugest to check the TAMs guys. for hardware. tamsolutions@hotmail.com

I just got this from them to rebuild my unRaid as a VM under XEN or ESXi
it's still on the workbench but looks very nice

IT IS LOUD, so some modes are needed
like replace the stock fans and if you want to do that far you can do the PSU mode to repalce the redundant PSUs it comes with for single normal PSU.
but the case aloane is worth it.


dual opteron CPU (they do have Intel Xenon servers available sometimes )
supports 24 hotswap HDD
up-to 128GB RAM (16 RAM slots for DDR2 240 pin)
(I am not sure how you would get 128 GB ram as 8GB modules for DDR2 is very expansive and hard to find)

for $349 you get all this(if you are lucky they might run a sale on this and you can get this for $319 smile.gif )
or go the cheaper road and get the dual core for $299 and update the CPUs as needed (that is what I should have done ohh well)

Case is 24 Bay Supermicro SC846 with caddies
Motherboard: H8DME-2
Procs: Qty 1 AMD Opteron Quad Core 2346HE @ 1.8GHz
Ram: 8GB 4x 2GB, 12 empty slots
IPMI Card: Kira 100
Qty 3 SAT2-MV8 Raid cards
Qty 2 Ablecom PWS-902-IR Power supplies
post #15 of 15
http://www.overclock.net/a/freebsd-htpc-and-home-server

I would just follow the above guide and skip out the multimedia bits since you just want a file server.
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