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post #1 of 12
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hello OCnet!

okay so this has been the plan for a while now but I will finally have the time and extra funds to complete this project... however this is my first go at something like this and would really love a LOT of input in all areas so i can make this machine perfect!

GOAL:
I want a relatively small / quiet / low footprint machine that I can use as a home theater. I would also like to be able to store all my content directly on this machine and ideally leave it on most hours of the day / night and be able to act as a Media server / NAS and be able to view my photos / movies / music on ANY PC in the home without hassle.

parts that I have currently and will be using:
AMD A8 3870k BE (I won this in an AMD twitter contest and have yet to be able to use it)
8GB of Gskill RAM (2 sticks)
LG blu-ray Drive

I also have a 750W ATX corsair power supply but i am hoping to not need to use this as its large and would require a bigger case, and is loud.

Parts i NEED:
CASE - I would like the case to be small, preferably mini ITX and be able to use my Blu-Ray drive as well as hold a full size HDD and PREFERABLY come with a power supply capable of running this rig
MoBo - mini ITX preferred, must have HDMI out
HDD - I will most likely be getting a 2TB HDD (this is more than enough for me for quite some time)
PSU - again, i prefer this to come with the case

What I am thinking:
- RIG 1:
i could get this mini ITX board it looks solid and gives me what I want/need = 89.99
put in in a case like this with PSU this case is defiantly what i am looking for as far as size and few fans. i should be able to fit one large HDD in there for storage as well. it comes with a PSU so i don't need to worry about that. = 64.99
and then of course a large HDD such as this one = 99.99
TOTAL: $254.97

i would LOVE to keep everything UNDER or right at $250 as i don't really feel that it is necessary to put more into it.

now onto software and things of that nature... I will most likely use XMBC as my interface for my media adventures on the PC itself but I would however like to ask for suggestions on how to properly share the HDD content across the network. i know of windows homegroups and that's really all i know because i currently use it to stream movies to my laptop from my desktop. I would like a more simple way of sharing content though. i feel like currently i have to dig into my computer folders just to get to where the media is, using windows media player to navigate my desktop files is annoying and I don't like it. what I would REALLY love is if i could set the HTPC up so it almost acted like a cloud drive. I would like to open my computer, see my C: drive, my D: drive, and then when the HTPC is on have another drive M: that I can browse as if it were right on my computer. I would also like to be able to load content over the network to the HTPC drive from my desktop just by clicking and dragging from my desktop to this magical M: drive. is anything like this possible?

thanks for the read! i look forward to hearing all the feedback!
post #2 of 12
Thread Starter 
the other options im thinking are:

this IN WIN Slim Case for a more natural looking box near my tv
and then this ASRock micro ATX board to go inside it
and i would put the same HDD as mentioned before in there.

i feel like this option gives me a little more expandability in the future if i ever need a second drive, or want an SSD boot drive.

what are your thoughts
post #3 of 12
you could go a few different ways with this, but the first thing that springs to mind is how much redundancy do you care about with your data?
post #4 of 12
Thread Starter 
i'm not too concerned with redundancy but i would like it to be an option down the road which is why i like the microatx option a little more
post #5 of 12
Thread Starter 
i'm not too concerned with redundancy but i would like it to be an option down the road which is why i like the microatx option a little more
post #6 of 12
What os are you planning on using, xbmc works on many different ones. With your "m drive thing" that's possible I can't remember exactly where the menu is in windows. On the computer you want to connect to the server you would find the settings "map network drive", you just enter something like the IP address of the share and assign it a drive letter, it will then act like a local drive on your computer.
My System
(21 items)
 
Server/HTPC
(11 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 8320 Asus m5a99fx pro EVGA 660ti  Gskill 8GB F3-1600C9-8GXM x2 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
4GB x2 OCZ Agility 3 Sasmsung 840 EVO Western Digital Caviar Blue 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
Seagate 500gb Asus DRW-24B1ST Asus BC-12B1ST cool master hyper 212 evo 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Windows 10 Pro x64 Arch  Asus 23" VH238 Asus 23" VH238H 
PowerCase
Corsair CX600M Fractal Design Define R5  
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
i3 6100 Asus Z170M-Plus something 16gb DDR4 Western Digital 500GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Samsung 2TB Western Digital Red 3TB HGST Deskter 4TB Unraid 6.x 
OSPowerCase
Ubuntu Server - VM Corsair CX430  Cooler Master HAF 912 
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Server/HTPC
(11 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 8320 Asus m5a99fx pro EVGA 660ti  Gskill 8GB F3-1600C9-8GXM x2 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
4GB x2 OCZ Agility 3 Sasmsung 840 EVO Western Digital Caviar Blue 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
Seagate 500gb Asus DRW-24B1ST Asus BC-12B1ST cool master hyper 212 evo 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Windows 10 Pro x64 Arch  Asus 23" VH238 Asus 23" VH238H 
PowerCase
Corsair CX600M Fractal Design Define R5  
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
i3 6100 Asus Z170M-Plus something 16gb DDR4 Western Digital 500GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Samsung 2TB Western Digital Red 3TB HGST Deskter 4TB Unraid 6.x 
OSPowerCase
Ubuntu Server - VM Corsair CX430  Cooler Master HAF 912 
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post #7 of 12
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most likely a spare copy of windows 7 i have laying around... mostly because im just used to windows and its environment and dont really want to learn my way around linux just to use a simply computer.
post #8 of 12
I can't really say for sure on the hardware but it should be fine. Also 8gb of ram is most likely more then you'll actually need. I can't say if it would be big enough of a psu but look at pico psu's as an option. Using windows 7 makes the sharing easier, just set up a share on it for the hard drive and then do what I said earlier.
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Server/HTPC
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 8320 Asus m5a99fx pro EVGA 660ti  Gskill 8GB F3-1600C9-8GXM x2 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
4GB x2 OCZ Agility 3 Sasmsung 840 EVO Western Digital Caviar Blue 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
Seagate 500gb Asus DRW-24B1ST Asus BC-12B1ST cool master hyper 212 evo 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Windows 10 Pro x64 Arch  Asus 23" VH238 Asus 23" VH238H 
PowerCase
Corsair CX600M Fractal Design Define R5  
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
i3 6100 Asus Z170M-Plus something 16gb DDR4 Western Digital 500GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Samsung 2TB Western Digital Red 3TB HGST Deskter 4TB Unraid 6.x 
OSPowerCase
Ubuntu Server - VM Corsair CX430  Cooler Master HAF 912 
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My System
(21 items)
 
Server/HTPC
(11 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD 8320 Asus m5a99fx pro EVGA 660ti  Gskill 8GB F3-1600C9-8GXM x2 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
4GB x2 OCZ Agility 3 Sasmsung 840 EVO Western Digital Caviar Blue 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOptical DriveCooling
Seagate 500gb Asus DRW-24B1ST Asus BC-12B1ST cool master hyper 212 evo 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Windows 10 Pro x64 Arch  Asus 23" VH238 Asus 23" VH238H 
PowerCase
Corsair CX600M Fractal Design Define R5  
CPUMotherboardRAMHard Drive
i3 6100 Asus Z170M-Plus something 16gb DDR4 Western Digital 500GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Samsung 2TB Western Digital Red 3TB HGST Deskter 4TB Unraid 6.x 
OSPowerCase
Ubuntu Server - VM Corsair CX430  Cooler Master HAF 912 
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post #9 of 12
One thing to consider is the cooling. The APU's do use a fair amount of power, putting that on a m-ITX motherboard and an mITX case is going to mean high temps. I haven't read as much on the ASrock FM1 motherboards, but I know there were issues with the FM2 ITX motherboard.

Asrock FM2A75M-ITX Motherboard Fire:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1337304/asrock-fm2a75m-itx-motherboard-fire/0_20

There was further discussion about the issues here:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1301979/trinity-apu-amd-socket-fm2-motherboard-discussion-gallery/220#post_18799453

The new FM2 ITX motherboard from ASRock apparently fixed most of the issues but I haven't followed it as closely.

There are a lot of small cases that allow for better cooling setups, personally I went with a Silverstone Sugo SG-05:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163207

There are two models with a 300w or 450w SFX PSU and they come in black or white. It might stretch your budget, but you could easily leave out the extra HDD for now and just share the files over wifi. Just food for thought! thumb.gif

EDIT: Also I actually prefer to use an external SSD drive and NAS for my HTPC. I have a 64 GB ssd with windows installed and a few apps and it's been great.
Edited by juryan - 5/30/13 at 8:34am
post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 
that is a nice looking case... that front port looks kind of skinny for an optical drive though... will it fit my blu ray drive in there?

do you have ANY socket FM1 boards with HDMI in a small form factor?
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