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So I'm considering getting a FX-6300 as the last CPU upgrade to my motherboard (GA-890FXA-UD5) before I replace my entire setup. However, the improvements of Steamroller seem very promising. The problem, aside from the wait, is I'm not sure how likely Steamroller will work on the 800 series of chipsets. I know for a fact it will work on the 900 and the new 1000 series, but I can't seem to get a definite answer on 800.

The next problem is BIOS compatibility. I get the impression SR's changes will require a BIOS update to function properly, and I don't expect my particular board to get one; it never got an update for PD.


So what is everyone else's take on this? Does anyone know for a fact if it'll work on the 800 series? Should I take a chance and hope it'll work without a BIOS update? Or should I just take the safe way out and go for the 6300?
   
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Are you sure your board even supports the FX-6300? According to the CPU support list it says since BIOS version N/A: meaning no BIOS has been released to support the processor.

If you currently have a Phenom II I wouldn't bother with the FX-6300 anyway. It's not much faster than Phenom II clock for clock in multi-threading, and in single threaded apps you will actually see a performance decrease.

Anyway since your board doesn't support Piledriver I guarantee you're not going to be getting updates to get Steamroller to run. The chip will probably physically fit in the slot unless they change one pin or something but you won't be booting. In my experience with AM2+/AM3 boards, if you have microcode support in the BIOS for the family of CPU, then it will usually work. Example: bios supports Phenom II X3 720 but not the 740, but the 740 will still work. Or it supports the Phenom II X4 955 but not the 980, the 980 would still work. Since Piledriver is a new architecture there is no chance it will work.
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I believe the distinction is, boards that are AM3+ are the boards that receive the updates to FX chips.
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I'm not 100% sure that the 6300 will work, but Gigabyte doesn't do a very good job at keeping those lists up to date. I actually have the revision 2.0 board (the oldest), which doesn't have AM3+ support at all, but I have a beta BIOS proven to work with Bulldozer. This beta BIOS also isn't available on the Gigabyte website.

Here's my reasoning for thinking PD will work with my board:
The revision 3.1 board (with the black socket) is known to support the 8350; the BIOS release proven to support that CPU was released almost a full year before PD came out. While the 6300 isn't listed, I'd be surprised if it didn't work with the rev 3.1. Anyways, that doesn't mean the beta BIOS I have now will work, but PD seems to be mostly just architectural improvements/fixes rather than actual changes. There are plenty of AM3 and AM3+ boards out there that support PD without a BIOS update.

The reason I posted this question, though, is because I first of all haven't heard about SR supporting the 800 series chipsets (but I haven't heard it doesn't support them either), and because it's more than just improvements and fixes; it is actually different than PD or BD. So, assuming the 6300 DOES work with my board, there's still a possibility SR won't.

I currently have an overclocked Athlon II x3, so the 6300 ought to be a huge performance improvement. I intend to get the 6300 from Amazon, where they're very accepting of returns. So, if my plan fails, then I don't really lose anything. I'd say there's a pretty decent change the 6300 will work in this beta BIOS. Worst case scenario, I might just have to go for a 8150, which I prefer not to do considering BD is noticeably worse than PD.
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So I'm considering getting a FX-6300 as the last CPU upgrade to my motherboard (GA-890FXA-UD5) before I replace my entire setup. However, the improvements of Steamroller seem very promising. The problem, aside from the wait, is I'm not sure how likely Steamroller will work on the 800 series of chipsets. I know for a fact it will work on the 900 and the new 1000 series, but I can't seem to get a definite answer on 800.

The next problem is BIOS compatibility. I get the impression SR's changes will require a BIOS update to function properly, and I don't expect my particular board to get one; it never got an update for PD.


So what is everyone else's take on this? Does anyone know for a fact if it'll work on the 800 series? Should I take a chance and hope it'll work without a BIOS update? Or should I just take the safe way out and go for the 6300?

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For both processors or just SR? And is there any particular reason you feel this way? I'm just trying to get as many opinions (but preferably facts) as I can, because whatever decision I make is going to be the last CPU upgrade I make for this board. If I go for a new AMD build I'm going to wait for AM4 or whatever their new socket will be.
   
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If your mobo will run a BD then it will run a PD.
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If your mobo will run a BD then it will run a PD.
no just no do you understand agriculture change?

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For both processors or just SR? And is there any particular reason you feel this way? I'm just trying to get as many opinions (but preferably facts) as I can, because whatever decision I make is going to be the last CPU upgrade I make for this board. If I go for a new AMD build I'm going to wait for AM4 or whatever their new socket will be.



AM3+ will get steamroller, older non am3+ boards will not get upgrades.
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If your mobo will run a BD then it will run a PD.
no just no do you understand agriculture change?

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agriculture change???

It's a Steamroller, not a combine. tongue.gif
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