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For both processors or just SR? And is there any particular reason you feel this way? I'm just trying to get as many opinions (but preferably facts) as I can, because whatever decision I make is going to be the last CPU upgrade I make for this board. If I go for a new AMD build I'm going to wait for AM4 or whatever their new socket will be.

Upgrade your board for good reasons:
1. You will never run steamroller on it and probably not Vishera. You were lucky to run bulldozeron it. Oh you never ried bulldozer on it. Forget it!
2. You will have improved phase control on your VRM's with a 990 FX chipset motherboard. Go for a board with 8x2 phase control unless you have no intention to overclock.. You can get Gigabyte UD3 board for as little as $139.99.
140 is expensive for a motherboard lol

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Upgrade your board for good reasons:
1. You will never run steamroller on it and probably not Vishera. You were lucky to run bulldozeron it. Oh you never ried bulldozer on it. Forget it!
2. You will have improved phase control on your VRM's with a 990 FX chipset motherboard. Go for a board with 8x2 phase control unless you have no intention to overclock.. You can get Gigabyte UD3 board for as little as $139.99.

1. There is proof on these forums that Bulldozer works with the beta BIOS of my board, and as stated previously on this very topic, many BD compatible boards will run PD without an update. I'm aware I'm taking a risk of PD not working, but the risk seems relatively low. I'm willing to risk a few dollars to pay for the return costs if I'm wrong.
2. My board has power VRM 8x2 phase control. It's an 890FX ATX board 140W CPU support. My board now is about as good as the one you're proposing.


At this point I'd really like to know why SR won't work. It's the why that I care about most, because I was 40% sure that it was going to work before asking this question. If/when I order the 6300 and it happens to work, I will post my results here. At that point, I'd be interested to see if anyone changes their mind. However, the annoying thing about that is I'd have already bought the 6300, so unless I decide to return it, that makes this topic a little on the pointless side (for my sake anyway).
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You should feel very confident that the 6300 will work on your mono as is. I think why most aren't as enthusiastic for SR working is because what info that has been released thus far makes it seem like a major evolution away from BD/PD. As likely as it is that the pin layout will stay the same, electrical and/or instruction set changes could make it incompatible with 800 series boards, even if manufacturers wanted to make it compatible, who knows if they could.
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You should feel very confident that the 6300 will work on your mono as is. I think why most aren't as enthusiastic for SR working is because what info that has been released thus far makes it seem like a major evolution away from BD/PD. As likely as it is that the pin layout will stay the same, electrical and/or instruction set changes could make it incompatible with 800 series boards, even if manufacturers wanted to make it compatible, who knows if they could.

Right, this is pretty much exactly what I had in mind and the driving factor of this topic. I just wanted to see if anyone could confirm this, as even your response isn't definite.

But considering everyone, including myself, was leaning toward "no, SR won't be 800 compatible", I'll just go for the 6300. If by chance SR is compatible with the 800 series and doesn't have any major drawbacks, then I might get SR anyway and see if I can build a 2nd computer with the 6300.


If AMD intends to make a better-than-average product, they're going to have to break compatibility at some point. While AM3+ boards with the 800 series chipset might end up losing out, AMD has tried to get people to stay away from those since BD was released. This is one reason why I prefer my next build to be DDR4 compatible, because AMD will have no choice but to ditch compatibility with older parts.
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140 is expensive for a motherboard lol

For a 990FX series, it isn't bad...

I got my 970a-UD3 for 74.99 before tax here. It's basically the 990fx-ud3 board minus the additional PCI-E lanes.
 
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anyone know when the SR will be released ? 3rd quarter or 4th ? for for people who are building PCs this is a major thing to think about , getting a $180 cpu for a month then the price will drop or it wont be released for the next 6 months ?
I think that should be your major thinking strategy with AMD.
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I dont know if you guys know, but the steamroller is going to be using a FM2+ Socket instead of AM3+ its been confirmed. I am kind of sad because i will have to get a new board that will have FM2+ Socket. Sucks

Here is the SS.


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what socket will be excavator? a new one?
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what socket will be excavator? a new one?


FM2+
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Kaveri is an APU that is based on SR. SR itself I believe is still AM3+ based. However, if I happen to be wrong, that makes deciding to go for the 6300 an even easier choice.
   
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