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Pew tongue.gif I almost started crying frown.gif lolz cheers.gif

but if it WAS for me.. you would be "kinda" right.. im no expert on ram clocking.. am I right by assuming that XMP is the easy way to set up RAMs? it worked well for me in the past
and if you are gonna OC CPU etc, XMP should not be used, since it is only a preset of settings and wont fit for most "manual" OCs..

By suggesting XMP, I hoped for a quick / easy fix for hes problem, but seams now that a manual OC might work better in this case.. :/

and I would vote against BIOS upgrade for new ppl unless there is a specific problem that bios update is know to fix..

Upgrading to the newest bios should be his first step then reading about what everything is in the bios be step 2
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some people say updating bios can be dangerous and that you shouldn't do it if its not needed.
you sure i should update it?

and once again im not asking for help overclocking my cpu just to make it run 100% speed as intended so i match my friends cpu score/speed
and since its the same one and both are not overclocked i don't see the point in needing to read a guide on how to overclock
even when i do find it rly intresting i will need alot more knowledge before attempting to do this myself
so once again i am just trying to fix my cpu so it runs same speed as my friends with the help of you guys
and since you guys have helped me fix the clock speed and the only diffrence now seems to be the ram speed that is not running 100%
im hoping i can fix this too with your help so i will have same cpu speed and it will boost my performance in games

I wouldnt update BIOS (well I would.. but I suggest that you dont)

and dont worry m8.. your score will be higher than your friends when we are done!
Just so we are clear.. your CPU IS getting the same score as your friend at this moment!
the lack in psychics score is the ram.. I will start researching your BIOS and come back with settings (easy to follow) that dosnt involve XMP..
The thing is, Im pritty sure your RAM should be able to run at 2000mhz (witch XMP seams to screw up some how) and im guessing you wanna go that high since the RAM says it can?
or would you be happy with something less? with this manual setup, we will probably take it one step at a time: 1333, 1600, 1866, 2000 ~ and see if we cant get all the way without problems..

I will be afk for 30 min or so.. (dinner and a run to the store)

We will get there thumb.gif no worries!
 
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Upgrading to the newest bios should be his first step then reading about what everything is in the bios be step 2

I suppose so.. I have a feeling that BIOS update isnt as big a deal as it once was (at this point I wanna explain that "gambi2004" does not mean that im 9 years old tongue.gif.. im 25 and have been around mostly older M/B's) and may not be as risky as the "readme"s might indicate..

My personal opinion is not to update unless there is a problem (witch there may or may not be here). but I tend to have the newest update anyway smile.gif sorry if this is confusing.

It is up to OP if he wanna do it or not.. I am confident he can get hes ram to where he wants without bios update.

*Edit*
few things.. It is a really good idea, as Stay Puft is saying, to get to know your BIOS (updated or not) before starting to change things!
I also noticed other threats here with same ram as yours..
From what I can tell.. it isnt necessary nor vise to go full 2000 mhz.. you wont notice any difference over 1600 mhz.. so I would suggest going with that..
that way you can run the RAM at 1.5v (less heat / stress) and you will also be able to get tighter timings, witch is a plus too.
Edited by GaMbi2004 - 5/30/13 at 12:29pm
 
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i am waiting for your guidance smile.gif
and no i don't mind at all to have 1600mhz instead of 2000
also i will be getting new ram today/tomorrow (so you know) i think i linked you that ram earlier
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I suppose so.. I have a feeling that BIOS update isnt as big a deal as it once was (at this point I wanna explain that "gambi2004" does not mean that im 9 years old tongue.gif.. im 25 and have been around mostly older M/B's) and may not be as risky as the "readme"s might indicate..

My personal opinion is not to update unless there is a problem (witch there may or may not be here). but I tend to have the newest update anyway smile.gif sorry if this is confusing.

It is up to OP if he wanna do it or not.. I am confident he can get hes ram to where he wants without bios update.

*Edit*
few things.. It is a really good idea, as Stay Puft is saying, to get to know your BIOS (updated or not) before starting to change things!
I also noticed other threats here with same ram as yours..
From what I can tell.. it isnt necessary nor vise to go full 2000 mhz.. you wont notice any difference over 1600 mhz.. so I would suggest going with that..
that way you can run the RAM at 1.5v (less heat / stress) and you will also be able to get tighter timings, witch is a plus too.

I run 2133 with my bloomfield and the only real thing i noticced from 1600 to 2133 is better Min fps in games and benchmarks and a higher Physics score.
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Sorry tongue.gif ran in to some friends..

so.. did you learn anything about your BIOS? updated or do you wanna hold that for now?
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I run 2133 with my bloomfield and the only real thing i noticced from 1600 to 2133 is better Min fps in games and benchmarks and a higher Physics score.
so? minor difference? is it worth trying to get that high?
in your opinion. Would BIOS Upgrade help him here? or do you just want it to be up-to-date (like me)thumb.gif
it seams you got more experience on this type of RAM than me so..

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?27272-A-Beginner-s-Guide-To-Setting-Up-RAM-Speed&country=&status=
Isnt this the general idea when clocking RAM on "newer" systems? I know this is a different bios.. but still same settings smile.gif

so 1600mhz@1.5v, timing auto for now? 1.65v (ram is tested for this) if it wont boot?

is my best bet tongue.gif

*Edit*
wow.. that was a lot of ?'s tongue.gif im not expert on this subject! still learning
<---- Overclocker in Training thumb.gif
Edited by GaMbi2004 - 5/30/13 at 2:57pm
 
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This. Select the XMP ratio and the UCLK should be double what your memory speed is. The UCLK is the northbridge speed.

If you're running 1600 memory select 3200 for the UCLK

Lol.. was just re-reading the threat..
how did I not notice this before?

Averion did you try this?
 
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I would recommend you have someone with experience flash the BIOS for you, as a 2010 BIOS rev is rather outdated. I have only bricked one motherboard in my life.. but for most motherboards, once the flash goes wrong, there's no turning back. I have a Maximus IV Extreme, it is easy as cake to flash its BIOS, as I don't even need to turn the PC on smile.gif There's also two BIOS chips in case something happens to one. Total Asus genius.
When building my system, the RAM ran at the JEDEC speed (1333), once I switched to XMP, everything was as it was supposed to be (1600). I supposed this happens for guaranteed stability or something. Good luck.thumb.gif
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I would recommend you have someone with experience flash the BIOS for you, as a 2010 BIOS rev is rather outdated. I have only bricked one motherboard in my life.. but for most motherboards, once the flash goes wrong, there's no turning back. I have a Maximus IV Extreme, it is easy as cake to flash its BIOS, as I don't even need to turn the PC on smile.gif There's also two BIOS chips in case something happens to one. Total Asus genius.
When building my system, the RAM ran at the JEDEC speed (1333), once I switched to XMP, everything was as it was supposed to be (1600). I supposed this happens for guaranteed stability or something. Good luck.thumb.gif
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Yeah this is my first post haha I joined to secure the name "Glycerin". I'm not a big forum guy, but I really like this website and I want to try and help other people with my knowledge.
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