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I'm looking to build an inexpensive shared storage solution. Right now I'm torn between using something like the Seagate STPB100 and just filling it with disks or building a small NAS server and using software like FreeNAS.

I'm not really sure if I like the Seagate solution and other similiar products would take this project well over budget. I'm trying to keep the cost below $1000. I think I have the specifications I want for the NAS server, but I still need a good RAID card. Also, if anyone has suggestions on improving the build I would love to hear it.

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Hey ragnar,

see this thread I posted awhile back, you want to think about energy use like I do cause I dont need a $500 electric bill a month keeping a self build NAS on look into Synology.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1336997/recommendation-for-nas-w-upnp

It uses 17.5 watts in use and 13w when idle, also on my post there's a link for the GUI. It's great, you can easily turn on VPN, setup your own cloud, FTP and SFTP and stream your movies and music from it. AND, you'll save a tons of money you can use else where. Worth checking out! thumb.gif
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Here you can try out the GUI, and play with it. See everything it does, monitorings, setting up users, etc...

http://www.synology.com/products/dsm_livedemo.php?lang=us
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A home built NAS doesn't consume anywhere near $500/mo in electricity.

Each 7200RPM HDD uses about 3-5W, and you could build a low powered system (Atom based?) that would consume very little. Granted, a decent home built NAS would probably idle in the 25-30w range, and use as much as 50w (depending on what it's used for -- i.e., transcoding, streaming, etc).

I have a virtualization host server that runs a 650w PSU, dual Xeon L5520 CPUs, and 18 2GB DIMMs along with 2 7200RPM drives and 1 SSD, and it only pulls 140w at idle and 210w under FULL load. ~160w didn't affect my electricity bill all that much.
post #5 of 20
An AMD E-350 or Atom based server pulls less than 20w idle plus you can add more SATA ports with expansion card and you can load software to make it much more flexible.

You can build mATX/mITX server for $150-200.
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A home built NAS doesn't consume anywhere near $500/mo in electricity.

Each 7200RPM HDD uses about 3-5W, and you could build a low powered system (Atom based?) that would consume very little. Granted, a decent home built NAS would probably idle in the 25-30w range, and use as much as 50w (depending on what it's used for -- i.e., transcoding, streaming, etc).

I have a virtualization host server that runs a 650w PSU, dual Xeon L5520 CPUs, and 18 2GB DIMMs along with 2 7200RPM drives and 1 SSD, and it only pulls 140w at idle and 210w under FULL load. ~160w didn't affect my electricity bill all that much.

I see where your coming from, but the synology NAS as a NAS is uber friendly and efficient energy wise. I have a Core2Quad server running as a file/media server on a 700w power supply. That was its only use for the time being. The synology took it's place since I want to leave it on 24/7, I'm on a big budget now that I have a family. But for what it's worth as a NAS the Synology does this just fine. Now if i was going to run several VM's, and rely on it for a DC, and a DNS and for IIS, then ya it'll be a no brainer.
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I see where your coming from, but the synology NAS as a NAS is uber friendly and efficient energy wise. I have a Core2Quad server running as a file/media server on a 700w power supply. That was its only use for the time being. The synology took it's place since I want to leave it on 24/7, I'm on a big budget now that I have a family. But for what it's worth as a NAS the Synology does this just fine. Now if i was going to run several VM's, and rely on it for a DC, and a DNS and for IIS, then ya it'll be a no brainer.


You do realize that PSU size doesn't really matter... the system is consuming what it needs and not 700w.

Prebuilt NASes cost more for less features/bays/flexibility. So you might be saving money on electricity at the rate of $9/year.... you spent much more upfront for less. The ROI on prebuilt NASes is terrible for someone who is tech-savy, has time, and needs more than 2 bays.
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Its funny before you have a fam, lights stay on. You use whatever cheap light bulbs you can find...Shoot now I have all high efficient LED light bulbs through-out the house, etc. Yelling turn off the lights when your not using them...All in all i've become my parents... weirdsmiley.gif
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You do realize that PSU size doesn't really matter... the system is consuming what it needs and not 700w.

Prebuilt NASes cost more for less features/bays/flexibility. So you might be saving money on electricity at the rate of $9/year.... you spent much more upfront for less. The ROI on prebuilt NASes is terrible for someone who is tech-savy, has time, and needs more than 2 bays.

Ok, I follow. He said Nas Server or Stand alone NAS. I gave my IMO and shared my expierence with him. That's why I'm gonna quit posting, cause no matter what you say someone else comes along and says my way is better, and that's it.
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Its funny before you have a fam, lights stay on. You use whatever cheap light bulbs you can find...Shoot now I have all high efficient LED light bulbs through-out the house, etc. Yelling turn off the lights when your not using them...All in all i've become my parents... weirdsmiley.gif
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Ok, I follow. He said Nas Server or Stand alone NAS. I gave my IMO and shared my expierence with him. That's why I'm gonna quit posting, cause no matter what you say someone else comes along and says my way is better, and that's it.
If the purpose is to save money, then you look at ROI.... A prebuilt NAS is cheaper if you are looking at a 1-2 bay unit. Once you get to 3+ bays, a file server is cheaper. You can build a 6-bay file server for $200 while the 4-bay Seagate STPB100 is $400. It would take 15-25 years before you recoup the cost from power savings.

Other benefits of a prebuilt NAS..... ease of setup, no building time, easier warranty, low power usage
Other benefits of a file server..... customization of software, flexible uses, more SATA ports



LED lights are cheaper because they use a magnitude less power and last a magnitude longer than incandescent light bulbs. That is a HUGE difference even though they cost more upfront. The ROI is only a 6-24 months.
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