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I recently came into a good amount of cash and want to upgrade my bloomfield system even though its still kicking i think battlefield 4 will wreck havoc on it and I want to be able to max it out like I was with BF3.

What I'm planning to watercool
i7 variant haswell "k" chip, hopefully overclocked to 4.5ghz range
GTX 780 slight overclock but i just want this to be running silent
I was planning to use either 3 Gentle typhoon 15's or 3 swifteh helix fans.. possibly my noiseblocker xlp's I use and adding another. If i need to p/p i will.

This is probably overkill in terms or parts but maybe not. im not aware of the costs for these cooling set ups. I'm planning to use a my switch 810 case or a caselabs sm8. I might downscale to arc midi 2 and use a 240mm thicker radiator though unless I would need two 240mm radiators for two waterblocks (not sure?) I was orginally gonna get a xspc kit but I don't like the bay res/pump although it seems easier to set up

I came up with this on frozencpu.com after watching about 2 hours worth of guides, reading etc. I watched about 45minutes from a linus watercooling loop install and feel like its something I can do easily now.



I wanted to find a cool looking tube style res, this one seemed to fit and I do need the pump top which essentially makes the tube res able to hook up directly to the pump right? And I have a feeling that pump is most likely overkill for just two waterblocks but I know I might eventually add another video card soon.. and I know swiftech is a good brand so I said meh whatever. I wasn't sure if I need a taller one or not. Is this all i need for the pump/res set up? And how do I go about actually mounting this?

For the CPU & GPU block I just like the way the xspc ones look, and hopefully I will change the blue led's to green. Not much to say about them. I picked that radiator because I believe it works well with lower speed fans.. I don't have a problem running high speed fans but if I can keep it quieter I want too. I would go with a RX240 dual radiator if I go with the arc midi 2 case and if only one radiator is enough. I will most likely pick up extra compression fittings and two or three angled connections if i need.

What would be the easiest way to drain this? A quick disconnection type for instance possibly that would allow me to disconnect the tubing then take the fitting off? Thats what I have a hard problem figuring out in my head how that works. I don't want it to be a extreme hastle.. in a guide I watched someone simply took there cpu block off then carefully removed one tube and drained some of it then took the other hose off and started to blow through one hose to another to drain it.

thanks for the help
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I recently came into a good amount of cash and want to upgrade my bloomfield system even though its still kicking i think battlefield 4 will wreck havoc on it and I want to be able to max it out like I was with BF3.

What I'm planning to watercool
i7 variant haswell "k" chip, hopefully overclocked to 4.5ghz range
GTX 780 slight overclock but i just want this to be running silent
I was planning to use either 3 Gentle typhoon 15's or 3 swifteh helix fans.. possibly my noiseblocker xlp's I use and adding another. If i need to p/p i will.

This is probably overkill in terms or parts but maybe not. im not aware of the costs for these cooling set ups. I'm planning to use a my switch 810 case or a caselabs sm8. I might downscale to arc midi 2 and use a 240mm thicker radiator though unless I would need two 240mm radiators for two waterblocks (not sure?) I was orginally gonna get a xspc kit but I don't like the bay res/pump although it seems easier to set up

I came up with this on frozencpu.com after watching about 2 hours worth of guides, reading etc. I watched about 45minutes from a linus watercooling loop install and feel like its something I can do easily now.



I wanted to find a cool looking tube style res, this one seemed to fit and I do need the pump top which essentially makes the tube res able to hook up directly to the pump right? And I have a feeling that pump is most likely overkill for just two waterblocks but I know I might eventually add another video card soon.. and I know swiftech is a good brand so I said meh whatever. I wasn't sure if I need a taller one or not. Is this all i need for the pump/res set up? And how do I go about actually mounting this?

For the CPU & GPU block I just like the way the xspc ones look, and hopefully I will change the blue led's to green. Not much to say about them. I picked that radiator because I believe it works well with lower speed fans.. I don't have a problem running high speed fans but if I can keep it quieter I want too. I would go with a RX240 dual radiator if I go with the arc midi 2 case and if only one radiator is enough. I will most likely pick up extra compression fittings and two or three angled connections if i need.

What would be the easiest way to drain this? A quick disconnection type for instance possibly that would allow me to disconnect the tubing then take the fitting off? Thats what I have a hard problem figuring out in my head how that works. I don't want it to be a extreme hastle.. in a guide I watched someone simply took there cpu block off then carefully removed one tube and drained some of it then took the other hose off and started to blow through one hose to another to drain it.

thanks for the help



Looks good, but a couple things. I would go with the MCP655 variable speed model. The other one performs worse because it's permanently set to a medium RPM setting. Also, keep in mind the Mayhems Pastel Concentrate is NOT a cooling liquid, but an additive. You need to mix it with distilled water.


Another thing, you will need more radiator space if you are going to be overclocking your system. The general rule of watercooling is one 120mm of radspace per component, an addition 120mm of radspace per overclock, and an addition 120mm of radspace for a little wiggle room. You would want about 4x120mm minimum. Another thing to note that if you want low noise fans, that means you will want even MORE radspace, because more radspace simply means you can use lower RPM fans. (Generally speaking lower RPM fans are quieter.)

So I would go for at least 5x120mm to 6x12mm radspace tongue.gif
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post #3 of 25
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thanks for the information about the pump, and yes i figured i needed to add distelled water with biocide or something else.

So you are telling me I should probably look at a 360 rad with a 240mm rad for some wiggle room if i ever wanted to add a second gpu? I think those little dinky 120mm ones look silly. I could just go with the caselabs case and get a quad 120mm radiator but not sure.
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thanks for the information about the pump, and yes i figured i needed to add distelled water with biocide or something else.

So you are telling me I should probably look at a 360 rad with a 240mm rad for some wiggle room if i ever wanted to add a second gpu? I think those little dinky 120mm ones look silly. I could just go with the caselabs case and get a quad 120mm radiator but not sure.


Again, here's the general rule. 120mm for a single device. 2x120mm if it has an overclock, 3x120 PER DEVICE if you want wiggle room. Remember, the GTX Titan is actually TWO GPUs in a single PCB, so it should be counted as two devices, so you'll want at least 3x120mm rads per GTX Titan card.

For your current rig I'd recommend 2 360mm rads, and add a 240mm rad if you get a second card.


On a side note, if I'm not mistaken the Mayhems Pastel Concentrate already has biocides, anti-corrosives, and anti scaling agents already in it.


It's going to be hard to get a quiet and efficient loop if you're going to go for two GTX Titans, as quiet liquid cooling is accomplished by more radspace, and you're already looking at a triple rad setup for the bare essentials.

On a side note, what on earth do you need FOUR GPUs for? (Two GTX Titans is essentially four graphics cards.
Edited by ZytheEKS - 5/30/13 at 2:03am
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post #5 of 25
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I'm going to get the GTX titan waterblock but thats because it fits the GTx 780.

I am most likely doing this build by the end of june and will only be using one gtx 780 for awhile so its only the CPU and 1GPU and I typically don't overclock the gpu very much.
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Ah, this makes MUCH more sense XD. Anyways, In that case 1 360 and 1 240 should be plenty tongue.gif
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post #7 of 25
The Koolance Drain Valve Will help out enormously with draining your system. If your putting it in the Switch 810, I would install it in between the pump and 250 radiator at the bottom.
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post #8 of 25
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Nice thanks for the idea with the koolance drain.

What about the pump mounting with that tube res/pump? Is there a place to simply screw it on the bottom of the case?

I'm actually thinking about getting a caselabs case because I still want to use my second rig for my brother and my dad to use.. my bro plays minecraft and some other games and my dad is just always on looking at aquarium stuff.. gets old having other people on my rig
Edited by JAM3S121 - 5/30/13 at 5:46pm
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I saw someone doing something similar in regards to the pump/kit/top, ect ect. Too much money IMO. MCP655 threaded edition + a res like the Phobya Balancer $30-$40 (pending size) + a male-male adapter.. done. $70+ less spent.

I have the raystorm, It's great don't get me wrong but had the Koolance 380i been out at the time of my purchase, would have gone with it... I see you are going for looks, fair enough, nvm then.

Oh I can definitely help you further... Just noticed you will go with either the Switch 810 or Caselabs SM8. I went from the Switch 810 to the SM8 thumb.gif Had I not won the SM8, I wouldn't have bothered moving on from the Switch, it's very nice too.

60mm thick can get tricky on top of the switch with the motherboard, but there is room to park a car between the bottom of the 60mm rad and the motherboard (in most cases) in the SM8.

- If you go with the SM8, get a 480mm badboy up top thumb.gif . Something like the SR1 480 or the Monsta 480 drool.gif or the UT60 480mm but that's sold out on PPC's, Haven't checked frozencpu.
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post #10 of 25
To have the pump top connect straight to the reservoir, all ya need is a male to male fitting like Jagz said above.

As an example: Bitspower Male to Male G1/4 Fitting

Their are also smaller size male to male fittings than the one I listed. So look around, and choose what fits best for you.


Dang, if you do go with the SM8, the EK CSQ Acetal Pump Top with Bitspower Black Matte Pump Mod Kit sure would look nice as a center piece. wink.gif
Edited by R3apR369 - 5/30/13 at 6:14pm
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