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No, they didn't have to put in a bid at all. They could very easily have declined.

I'll say it again - putting together a bid costs a lot of money. It involves hours of work, quite a bit of design time not to mention presenting the bid. Any company with sense would decline to bid if they were not serious. So you are saying that nVidia are stupid? OK.

Go and learn how the bidding and contract process works, then come back and comment.
I have a feeling that you THINK you know how that stuff works in that industry, anyway you dont have to get that butthurt. Theres no downside to putting in a bid, if i dont really want a job its simple i will put in a bid that would profit me a LARGE amount, then if for some weird reason i win the bid (even though i didnt want it) I would still be okay with it. So in the end YOUR RIGHT they didn't have to, but it would have been foolish not to.
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AMD have APU + HSA. Probably this is not as excited like shield but its something........................

(doh.gif )
Very true, im all for company's coming out with "new" things (progress by one can only help the progress of the other). In the end i will buy the product that i find the most pleasing and that I find better. unless of course business practices come into play, in which case i wont buy from that company or "support" them in any way.
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I have a feeling that you THINK you know how that stuff works in that industry

Yes, I think I do.

Given that the last bid I worked on was a $400 million+ engineering project, and the previous 6 years of my engineering experience have been based largely around the design and cost estimating side of bidding I think I have a fair idea of how the process works.

And we absolutely decline to bid if we think there is no chance in winning.

Edit: $400 million, not $400
Edited by GingerJohn - 5/30/13 at 11:32am
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Note, I believe most of us agree AMD is not selling at a loss and the real reason AMD is in this is for APU/HSA adoption.

Exactly; and when a company is this far into the ground, why would they want to kill themselves with such a huge and costly business move. It's common sense. AMD is not 'dumb' to end their business.
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Yes, I think I do.

Given that the last bid I worked on was a $400+ engineering project, and the previous 6 years of my engineering experience have been based largely around the design and cost estimating side of bidding I think I have a fair idea of how the process works.

And we absolutely decline to bid if we think there is no chance in winning.
i highly doubt Nvidia believed they had NO chance of winning. Just because they didn't care about winning the bid doesn't mean they thought they had NO chance of winning. I think your taking this thread a little to personal, but hey to each their own.
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Like shield? buttkick.gif

Shield is just an experiment.

What Nvidia has been doing for a while is that they're creating GRID, streaming, geforce experience, etc. Their own ecosystem.

Then there's the mobile side that they also already have pretty much developed.

To make the shield from those ready ingredients doesn't cost much. Just design a PCB and make a plastic controller.

What it's supposed to do is see how customers react to the ecosystem and how it can be developed further. The software and the hardware they use with the shield and their further development wont go to waste even if the shield doesn't get much attention. The hardware and the software will just be used to further expand on the ecosystem they're creating. Basically it's a win win for them no matter how the device does since people buying it isn't even really the main priority...
 
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At this point not buying next gen AMD GPU's is pointless. Not sure if the APU's are worth it yet though.
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Shield is just an experiment.

What Nvidia has been doing for a while is that they're creating GRID, streaming, geforce experience, etc. Their own ecosystem.

Then there's the mobile side that they also already have pretty much developed.

To make the shield from those ready ingredients doesn't cost much. Just design a PCB and make a plastic controller.

What it's supposed to do is see how customers react to the ecosystem and how it can be developed further. The software and the hardware they use with the shield and their further development wont go to waste even if the shield doesn't get much attention. The hardware and the software will just be used to further expand on the ecosystem they're creating. Basically it's a win win for them no matter how the device does since people buying it isn't even really the main priority...

It was more sarcasm than actually an answer tongue.gif

Ofc they will try to do their own ecosystem,without x86 license you need to expand to other markets
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It war more sarcasm than actually an answer tongue.gif

well it got me thinking tongue.gif

Wouldn't want to waste a good mini rant
 
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is it $60 or $100 ?
if Global Foundries going to be the CPU manufacturer ?
if so, how much does AMD Really make for each CPU?
Can GF make enough units, won't it impact other production lines ?

so many things to consider,
to be honest this article is far from giving a insight on what it means for AMD/GF
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