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"Old guard"? Lol, I think they mean most of their consumer base.
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obviously, i just think the price is outdated considering ms no longer hold a monopoly in the os market.

Well yeah, but almost all software from large companies is overpriced.

For instance, Adobe wouldn't have such a huge piracy problem if they priced their products reasonably.

$500 product X 10,000 customers = $5 million
$5 product X 1,000,000 customers = $5 million

Do you see why they don't bother dropping the price? At $500 they only need 1/100th of the number of customers to make the same amount of money as if they were to drop the price drastically to attract 100x the customers. The mass sales "rule" you're speaking of doesn't necessarily apply to every industry. If it's working great for them, why mess with it? Yes, if I were such a corporation I'd surely bump down the price every few months to attract each "tier" of potential customers; I do agree with that standpoint. Adobe's products are reasonably priced, to them. Much like Apple's products. For every pirate that doesn't spend $500 and gets it free, there will always be someone that does pay the $500. thumb.gif
Edited by Stealth Pyros - 5/31/13 at 11:31am
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$500 product X 10,000 customers = $5 million
$5 product X 1,000,000 customers = $5 million

Do you see why they don't bother dropping the price? At $500 they only need 1/100th of the number of customers to make the same amount of money as if they were to drop the price drastically to attract 100x the customers. The mass sales "rule" you're speaking of doesn't necessarily apply to every industry.
Nor does it follow that decreasing the price will generate enough new sales to cover the difference.

In reality, a price drop doesn't translate very well to increase sales. People are still only going to buy what they need, if you don't increase demand, then price drops too.

People don't just go out and buy an OS because it is a good deal. They buy it because they need it. They also don't buy it when they don't need it, and how many times have you gone out and purchased more than one copy of windows per PC?
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The only thing people wanted was a start MENU, not a start BUTTON. Microsoft has their head up their ass with this particular change, it's just pointless.
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$500 product X 10,000 customers = $5 million
$5 product X 1,000,000 customers = $5 million

Do you see why they don't bother dropping the price? At $500 they only need 1/100th of the number of customers to make the same amount of money as if they were to drop the price drastically to attract 100x the customers. The mass sales "rule" you're speaking of doesn't necessarily apply to every industry.
Nor does it follow that decreasing the price will generate enough new sales to cover the difference.

In reality, a price drop doesn't translate very well to increase sales. People are still only going to buy what they need, if you don't increase demand, then price drops too.

People don't just go out and buy an OS because it is a good deal. They buy it because they need it. They also don't buy it when they don't need it, and how many times have you gone out and purchased more than one copy of windows per PC?

Very true, but I'd say specifically in the case of PhotoShop, the demand for it has gone up in recent years because more people are "getting into" photography. The massive availability of smartphones with cameras, and extremely affordable digital cameras has a trickling effect that is probably affecting Adobe in a positive manner biggrin.gif

Gradual price drops do well with video game sales and tech products in general. I'd say price drops don't do well for things like books and other products that aren't really for repeated and long-term use. For example: a hairbrush, a hair dryer, a pack of pens, a bag of snacks, etc.

I think Windows 8 upgrades were priced extremely fairly at launch, but I think they should have just stuck with such prices. Microsoft needs to work to get all PC users on the same level, rather than having millions that are still behind on XP, and in that case, a price drop on Windows 8 could definitely attract more XP users.
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adding the button that does the same thing as pushing the windows key is pointless. I want to see more focus on usability for desktop users. No more popup junk. no more windows+c to get to what should have been built into the start button that should have been there in the first place. I dont know why, but pressing win+something really drives me nuts. It just isnt built into my touch typing muscle memory.
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adding the button that does the same thing as pushing the windows key is pointless. I want to see more focus on usability for desktop users. No more popup junk. no more windows+c to get to what should have been built into the start button that should have been there in the first place. I dont know why, but pressing win+something really drives me nuts. It just isnt built into my touch typing muscle memory.

I don't see why tho. I've been using Win+Key for a long time now and really I don't see myself going to back. It's the easiest thing in the world just to press Win+E to open up my computer or Win+R = type cmd for command prompt. I think if you use it enough, you may like it! If you have and still can't vibe with it, that's cool too. Cosign on the charm bar tho. It's stupid and it further shows that Microsoft should've made a desktop version of Win8. If they want to be like apple, at least follow Apple to the crossed t and dotted i.
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I hate Windows 8 so much. Seriously. It's just horrible.

Here is the dumbest thing about Windows 8 that I've encountered.

You can't turn off UAC in the through Control Panel. You can set it to never notify, but that just means it will deny every permission.
To actually disable it, you need to navigate through the registry and set a particular value to disable.
But after you disable it, you can't use store apps. No Metro apps at all.

So you have to enable it.
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I hate Windows 8 so much. Seriously. It's just horrible.

Here is the dumbest thing about Windows 8 that I've encountered.

You can't turn off UAC in the through Control Panel. You can set it to never notify, but that just means it will deny every permission.
To actually disable it, you need to navigate through the registry and set a particular value to disable.
But after you disable it, you can't use store apps. No Metro apps at all.

So you have to enable it.

why oh why does uac not function like its equivalents in linux/osx. i really don't understand
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I hate Windows 8 so much. Seriously. It's just horrible.

Here is the dumbest thing about Windows 8 that I've encountered.

You can't turn off UAC in the through Control Panel. You can set it to never notify, but that just means it will deny every permission.
To actually disable it, you need to navigate through the registry and set a particular value to disable.
But after you disable it, you can't use store apps. No Metro apps at all.

So you have to enable it.

Never notify doesn't deny every permission. It means the UAC won't show up saying you're trying to install a program, thus allowing you to install the program. Have you even tried to do it before you came over here hollering?

Edit: The exact same options show up in Windows 7. I understand you don't like Windows 8, but spreading false information only makes you look foolish.
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