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Personally hope actual button is an option. Taskbar is SO much cleaner without it, since you can just click the corner of the screen anyway.
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I use classic shell on 8. Haven't had an issue since. I have seen FPS improvements in almost all of my games since i switched to windows 8.
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Hey. I just wanted to know if I already have windows 8. Will i get the upgrade of 8.1 for free? thanks
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I will get windows 8 whenever it is free, why pay money to upgrade form windows 7 when windows 7 WORKS PERFECTLY (for me at least). I see no positives about giving M$ money, especially when i don't support their company or their decisions.
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I will get windows 8 whenever it is free, why pay money to upgrade form windows 7 when windows 7 WORKS PERFECTLY (for me at least). I see no positives about giving M$ money, especially when i don't support their company or their decisions.

Just by using Windows, paid copy or not, you're supporting them... headscratch.gif

If you're a member of a college or employee of a company that is enrolled in Microsoft Dreamspark you should be able to get a copy free though.
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The only thing I argue are against people that have this mind-boggling belief that Windows 8 is somehow inferior, when they probably tried it for a few days and only base their decision off its lack of a classic Start button and menu. To refuse making the upgrade to a better performing and more secure OS over it not having such (which is, again, very easily replaced) is just ridiculous lol. The problem we pick at isn't about people not wanting to upgrade, it's about why they don't want to; no one that is a PC enthusiast has given a GOOD reason why they don't want to upgrade from Windows 7 to 8. The only argument I've ever seen is "give me the classic Start menu and I'll get it." Ok? *Hands you a link to Classic Shell, Start 8, and a plethora of other options that give you an even better Start menu*

Because the learning curve proves to be too much, and people are already wary of third party software. I have no personal gripe with W8, but my end users do. Sure, for you or me we can install a shell without issue. But people generally don't respond to well to "Let's install something I found on Google to make it work like 7 did." They've done some brilliant things that make my life easier with printer installation, Win+X to bring up anything I would ever need, but the OS only becomes intuitive for some if you are able to convince them to do something they've been instinctively taught over the years not to do; install a program downloaded from the internet.

I am very much so looking forward to 8.1, and I think 8 is okay, but I feel that this is a necessary update for OEM users who are not technically savvy but require the use of a computer. That is why sales will improve for 8.1.
post #47 of 198
Adding a start button won't attract all the people who are turned off by Windows 8. The people who are turned off by Windows 8 are turned off by the interface, not the lack of a start button. You could always go down to the lower left and bring up the Metro page.
Too little too late, for the people who don't like Windows 8 at least.
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The only thing I argue are against people that have this mind-boggling belief that Windows 8 is somehow inferior, when they probably tried it for a few days and only base their decision off its lack of a classic Start button and menu. To refuse making the upgrade to a better performing and more secure OS over it not having such (which is, again, very easily replaced) is just ridiculous lol. The problem we pick at isn't about people not wanting to upgrade, it's about why they don't want to; no one that is a PC enthusiast has given a GOOD reason why they don't want to upgrade from Windows 7 to 8. The only argument I've ever seen is "give me the classic Start menu and I'll get it." Ok? *Hands you a link to Classic Shell, Start 8, and a plethora of other options that give you an even better Start menu*

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I am very much so looking forward to 8.1, and I think 8 is okay, but I feel that this is a necessary update for OEM users who are not technically savvy but require the use of a computer. That is why sales will improve for 8.1.

For those that are entirely computer illiterate, yes, I agree and don't argue that. But this is overclock.net. I'm specifically pointing fingers at these PC elitists that complain about not having the option, when they do. If they're such enthusiasts, learning a new UI and/or downloading a 5MB application that replaces it shouldn't be intimidating.
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Just by using Windows, paid copy or not, you're supporting them... headscratch.gif

If you're a member of a college or employee of a company that is enrolled in Microsoft Dreamspark you should be able to get a copy free though.
Im a gamer, i have no choice but to use their products, and yes i am using a paid version. Im just saying that im not giving them any more money than is minimally required.
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To anyone who still yaps about start menus, just look at what you can do with Stardock.
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Here, I have two buttons, one for the Win7 menu and one for the Win8 (I find both very useful.) You can, of course, disable one or the other. You can have for example the Windows key open the classic menu, or the Metro menu, or by pressing Ctrl + Win you can shift between each function. Very handy.


Here is the Win7 menu expanded. Looks exactly like the Win7 original on Win8.
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