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To anyone who still yaps about start menus, just look at what you can do with Stardock.

I wonder if you had to put a 3rd party drivers seat into a brand new car that you paid more for then all the other cars, if that is really a good deal.

Microsoft is going to stay the course. So I have no choice but to stay the course and not buy their product.

I was forced to use windows 8 for the last 2 months. I have the worst headache from that operating system. Part of it comes from the fact that they can not seem to leave your desktop alone, every time you click on something it whips you from metro to your desktop and back, it actually gives me a headache. The other problem is simply the interface. Metro is Microsoft attempt to force people to use their store. They are forcing people to use their store because they need developers to develop. If they got rid of metro, they would lose a ton of developers.

They are letting their pocket book speak.

Gave a new pc to a family member, yep they hate metro too. Had to reinstall the new operating system after 4 days because the created an live account and microsoft was begging them to buy stuff.

Steam is going linux. I will convert the 300+ company computers and the home computers over if they don't change their ways.
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Steam is going linux. I will convert the 300+ company computers and the home computers over if they don't change their ways.

And I'm sure Microsoft is afraid of your ultimatum. lachen.gif

In all seriousness, STEAM going Linux means nothing. Absolutely zilch. When EA, Activision and all the BIG NAME developers/publishers put out Linux versions, it'll have a chance at taking off. Until then, it's a client with a very mediocre and small selection of games. People seriously need to stop using "Steam for Linux" as the backbone to anti-8 arguments.
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post #54 of 198
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To anyone who still yaps about start menus, just look at what you can do with Stardock.

I wonder if you had to put a 3rd party drivers seat into a brand new car that you paid more for then all the other cars, if that is really a good deal.

Microsoft is going to stay the course. So I have no choice but to stay the course and not buy their product.

I was forced to use windows 8 for the last 2 months. I have the worst headache from that operating system. Part of it comes from the fact that they can not seem to leave your desktop alone, every time you click on something it whips you from metro to your desktop and back, it actually gives me a headache. The other problem is simply the interface. Metro is Microsoft attempt to force people to use their store. They are forcing people to use their store because they need developers to develop. If they got rid of metro, they would lose a ton of developers.

They are letting their pocket book speak.

Gave a new pc to a family member, yep they hate metro too. Had to reinstall the new operating system after 4 days because the created an live account and microsoft was begging them to buy stuff.

Steam is going linux. I will convert the 300+ company computers and the home computers over if they don't change their ways.

As a car enthusiast, I swap out the seats for Recaro/Bride/MOMO/etc. seats, because while I knew what car I was buying, I knew it was a big step up from my previous car, and I knew that I can very easily swap the seats out for seats that I like. Do you see the point now? If you're an enthusiast with high interest in PCs, you swap out what you don't like, especially when you have the ability to do it.

An even better example would be if Nissan/Lexus were to stop putting start buttons in their car. You're buying the new version of their cars that don't have a start button. There's nothing stopping you from buying a third party keyless ignition with a start button. If your reason for not getting a brand new car that is worlds better than your ~5 year old Lexus is that it doesn't have a start button, well... redface.gif

I haven't even seen the store. Matter of fact, I haven't seen the modern UI since the day I installed W8. They're not forcing jack upon anyone if it takes 5 seconds to completely bypass the new UI.
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post #55 of 198
It's people like 8800Gamer that make me wonder why I even bother...

On topic though, This update still won't change my opinion on windows 8, which is that it's a pretty bad OS for a desktop. For a tablet though, it seems like it would be fine because, well, it IS designed for tablets anyways. On top of that, windows 7 has better compatibility with programs than windows 8 does because 7 has been around longer obviously. Not only that, but there's nothing specifically talored to run on windows 8 only that would make me buy it. The main reason I got windows 7 in the first place was because XP was 'dying' (Games I wanted to play started to require DX10 or higher) and I've been using 7 ever since the RC build came out.

To me, it just seems like wasted money, and I'd rather save that money up to upgrade the hardware in my system.
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Still not interested in a tablet OS on my desktop.

Give me a choice of metro for my touch ultrabook and the classic UI for my proper rig and I'll buy a bunch of copies. Until then I will avoid the OS and advise other gamers to do so as well.
 
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post #57 of 198
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I wonder if you had to put a 3rd party drivers seat into a brand new car that you paid more for then all the other cars, if that is really a good deal.

Microsoft is going to stay the course. So I have no choice but to stay the course and not buy their product.

I was forced to use windows 8 for the last 2 months. I have the worst headache from that operating system. Part of it comes from the fact that they can not seem to leave your desktop alone, every time you click on something it whips you from metro to your desktop and back, it actually gives me a headache. The other problem is simply the interface. Metro is Microsoft attempt to force people to use their store. They are forcing people to use their store because they need developers to develop. If they got rid of metro, they would lose a ton of developers.

They are letting their pocket book speak.

Gave a new pc to a family member, yep they hate metro too. Had to reinstall the new operating system after 4 days because the created an live account and microsoft was begging them to buy stuff.

Steam is going linux. I will convert the 300+ company computers and the home computers over if they don't change their ways.

Uninstall all Metro apps you don't want to use (like photo, video, etc.) Immediately solves your being thrown back into Metro problem.

Use a local account. Or opt out of their email notifications (gasp, you can actually opt out of email subscriptions).
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Fix the problems with surround (cough nvidia cough) and I will actually pay money for windows 8. I have been calling this for ages, the tablet/touch overlay is useless for desktops. I said it the day this crap was announced that they would wind up changing it due to riotous complaints.
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Fix the problems with surround (cough nvidia cough) and I will actually pay money for windows 8. I have been calling this for ages, the tablet/touch overlay is useless for desktops. I said it the day this crap was announced that they would wind up changing it due to riotous complaints.

If you actually read it, they're not removing the Metro layer.
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I wonder if you had to put a 3rd party drivers seat into a brand new car that you paid more for then all the other cars, if that is really a good deal.

Microsoft is going to stay the course. So I have no choice but to stay the course and not buy their product.

I was forced to use windows 8 for the last 2 months. I have the worst headache from that operating system. Part of it comes from the fact that they can not seem to leave your desktop alone, every time you click on something it whips you from metro to your desktop and back, it actually gives me a headache. The other problem is simply the interface. Metro is Microsoft attempt to force people to use their store. They are forcing people to use their store because they need developers to develop. If they got rid of metro, they would lose a ton of developers.

They are letting their pocket book speak.

Gave a new pc to a family member, yep they hate metro too. Had to reinstall the new operating system after 4 days because the created an live account and microsoft was begging them to buy stuff.

Steam is going linux. I will convert the 300+ company computers and the home computers over if they don't change their ways.

You're very exorbitant. I have no idea what you're describing. I've been using Win8 for 6 months now, never had any such problem, and of course no "headaches". Maybe you can elaborate more on what whips you back and forth so I can understand. Also, I've opened the Windows store about 2-3 times all this time, it's just...there. A lonely icon on metro. I see no reason to use it if you don't want to.

I am also a person who is baffled as to why we needed metro in the first place, but I don't think you make any accurate arguments against buying or using Win8 in general.

Last, you are right that installing third party stuff on something you bought is not good, but in this case, it's software, it's not hardware or a driver's seat. Physical goods are a much bigger deal than a piece of software that runs just fine. If you can't buy Stardock, and you don't like Windows 8, you don't buy the OS and you're set. If you buy a car knowing that it doesn't have driver seats, and you then buy some from a third party dealer, do you complain? Or to put it otherwise, do you feel angry that Windows doesn't contain ALL possible applications that can be made, and so you don't download any software off other devs? I mean, you can use the same arguement, why do I have to install X software to do Y thing? Microsoft should have implemented it out of the box.

As long as Microsoft supports both Win7 and Win8, you are not forced to upgrade. So, you shouldn't complain that a new OS is not exactly like the old one. Just use the old one, it works perfectly fine.

I don't think it makes sense that way.
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Still not interested in a tablet OS on my desktop.

Give me a choice of metro for my touch ultrabook and the classic UI for my proper rig and I'll buy a bunch of copies. Until then I will avoid the OS and advise other gamers to do so as well.

Why would a gamer choose Win7 over Win8, are there benches that show lower performance on Win8? I'd be interested in the reviews if you have some links.
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