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I was under the impression that Kaveri was the codename for the third line of FX CPU's. Is that incorrect? If so, does anyone know the proper name?

Kaveri is the codename for the APUs utilizing Steamroller cores on the FM2 platform. Steamroller refers to the core architecture. The FX line does not have a designation for Steamroller based CPUs as of yet.
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Well, ask Microsoft how they'll be using theirs. Replace the 8 Jaguar cores with 2 Steamroller modules, and bam, you got what they claim.

But... I would expect a very high TDP out of this. 85w from the 7790 half alone, they would only have 40w to pack in the CPU half. A 6570 (close as I can find to a Trinity GPU) has about 60w TDP, meaning that Trinity would also have a 40w envelope for the CPU half, assuming we base it on the 5800k. The 5700 model manages to pack it into a (much) smaller envelope. Granted, IMC is shared, RAM doesn't count in that TDP, and so on, so that allows for slight cutting back.

... Assuming Steamroller has a similar TDP to Trinity, it is actually possible that they could pack a 7790 and 2 modules into one die, and have it fit in the 125w segment. Holy crap. drool.gif

On the other hand, the 7750 has a TDP of 55w. Much more reasonable to expect.

I'm not sure they'll do it though. It would be nothing short of awesome, but still, I'll set my sights on the much more reasonable to expect 7750-level performance. I doubt they want to go above 100w TDP anyway.
See above for estimations, but don't take it as law. We have almost no way of knowing how the TDP is spread.

28nm or lower is scalling up at glofo and tsmc
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So performance around the Radeon HD 7790 is pretty much expected from the upcoming chips.

That's a frankly ridiculous statement until proven otherwise, even if by some magic that AMD can stuff 2 steamroller modules and 14 GCN CUs + all the other logic required in a die that yield semi-decently and sell for <$300, this would absolutely necessitate GDDR5 RAM of some sort.
 
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Kaveri BETTER work with FM2 and CFX with a 7700 GPU.
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my poor old llano is just sitting here... at 2.6ghz... unable to overclock do to not having a DVI on my monitor... sad-smiley-002.gif

but it is all right because this christmas i'll get a kaveri APU, and a new monitor! i also have some samsung wonder ram waiting to be overclocked! tongue.gif

How does the lack of DVI affect overclocking?
     
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post #56 of 92
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Kaveri BETTER work with FM2 and CFX with a 7700 GPU.

Haha, pretty much. Looking forward to checking it out. Hopefully it's claims are true.
 
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post #57 of 92
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It should.

It will.

FM2+ only adds GDDR5 support, as far as we know.
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How does the lack of DVI affect overclocking?

Because the clock generator for the main bus also serves as a clock generator for the VGA signal in most boards, meaning that an overclock of said bus throws the VGA off timing. Ergo, most boards disable FSB overclocking if you get video signal from the VGA. A bit weird if you ask me.
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Kaveri BETTER work with FM2 and CFX with a 7700 GPU.

If it has 12 GCN compute units that should mean we'll be able to get 768 CUs on Kaveri... Which sits right between the HD7770 (640) and the HD7790 (896). It should be able to Crossfire with HD7790, if those specs are right.
   
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Kaveri looks seriously impressive, AMD's APU's are the most interesting thing in PC tech over the past few years imho. In the next 3-5 years we will see APU's powerful enough for a lot of gamers to simply not need to buy dedicated GPU's. Saves power and cheaper. The future is fusion lol.
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post #59 of 92
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AMD's APU's are the most interesting thing in PC tech over the past few years
That's what I'm thinking too. Since I discovered APU, I've been fascinated about the technology behind it and how its performance getting better and better. And how the APU's are very affordable especially to many gamers who have tight budget.
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i really cant wait for this so i can upgrade my A10 5800k, i wonder about the mini ITX offering
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