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Why are they calling it 8.1? Why don't they just call it Service Pack 1? Not a big deal really?

Btw, fixing the search bar doesn't mean it's just like Windows 7 now. Never mind all the OTHER fixes and upgrades Windows 8 has made rolleyes.gif


Better Multi-Monitor Support



New dialog box for file copying

VS

"In Windows 8, you can also pause or stop copy jobs (Windows 7 allows you to stop them but not to pause them), easily manage file-name collisions, and get more details about the copy job, such as the speed of data transfer and a more accurate estimate of time remaining."

Refresh and reset

"Many people make it a habit to create a personalized system image and reinstall Windows every 6 to 12 months to improve their hardware's performance. Microsoft aims to make that chore a little easier with the new refresh and reset features.
Windows 7: The older OS offers less flexibility for restoring backup images.
The new refresh lets you reinstall Windows without losing your personal data, Modern UI apps, and settings. The new reset removes all of your personal data and reinstalls Windows."

Picture passwords

"This feature requires you to choose a photo from your image library and then create three gestures on the photo using any combination of circles, straight lines, and taps (or clicks, on mouse-and-keyboard PCs)."


Storage Spaces

"Borrowed from the first version of Windows Home Server and then improved, Storage Spaces lets you manage internal and external storage drives as if they were one massive drive called a storage pool.
Behind the scenes, Storage Spaces also duplicates your data across multiple drives in the pool to create redundancy in case of single-drive failure."

Faster startup times
"Windows 8 includes a new hybrid system that Microsoft says will dramatically improve boot times compared to Windows 7. The new hybrid boot combines processes used in cold boots and hibernation mode, including kernel-session storage and the employment of multiple cores in parallel during boot."

New chkdsk

VS

"In Windows 8, the GUI version of chkdsk can scan an active drive, something the Windows 7 GUI version can't do. To fix problems, you still have to reboot in Windows 8, but the process is much faster."

File History
"File History backs up everything in your Libraries, Desktop, Favorites, and Contacts folders and lets you restore previous revisions of a file. It can save data to an external hard drive as well as cache items in your local drive on occasions when you're not connected to your backup drive."


Secure boot
"A new secure-boot process, enabled by default on all new Windows 8 PCs, will prevent unauthorized operating systems and malware from loading on your machine. The system uses cryptographic signatures to verify that the operating system is authorized to load and that it hasn't been tampered with."



and more....
"Microsoft has made many more improvements to Windows 8, including improved hardware acceleration for graphics, better printer discovery, and a new enterprise virtualization feature called Windows to Go."

SOURCE


PCmag Windows 7 vs Windows 8

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406668,00.asp

TechRadar
"hanks to changes under the hood like making background processes wake the processor up at the same time rather than one after another and using GPU acceleration for a lot more tasks, plus changing the way shutdown works to make it more like hibernation, Windows 8 boots more quickly, runs some tasks – especially multimedia, transcoding and anything using DirectX – faster and delivers longer battery life.
Booting and shutting down Windows 8 is faster than Windows 7; twice as fast in some of our tests on a mid-range second generation Core i5 notebook (upgraded to a fast SSD, but we saw even bigger improvements on a hard drive system). Hibernating and resuming speeds improved as well, but not by as much."

Just to help consolidate some other benefits for you smile.gif
Let's make a list of the disadvantages:

Start screen:
mrseb-windows-8-metro-start-screen.jpg
Notes: depends on opinions, can be changed for free (Classic Shell).

Um... yea that's it.
post #152 of 160
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Let's make a list of the disadvantages:

Start screen:Notes: depends on opinions, can be changed for free (Classic Shell).

Um... yea that's it.
Not to mention, you can just plop any of those icons on the desktop too if you'd like for even more convenience.
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This thread is a example of classic statistical fallacy. People are judging for themselves, not by an actual user behavior.

Arguing about the merits of Win8 vs Win7 is moot and a waste of time.

Numbers speak for themselves. Comments here seem more like armchair opinions than fact, because anyone can do a Google search and paste numbers and pictures to reinforce their misconceptions.

While it may not seem like a huge number, one of the companies I work for has removed Windows 8 from 520+ machines and reinstalled Windows 7 over the past 6 months. Clients range from law firms, clinics, schools, small to medium businesses and they are steadily receiving requests on a daily basis.

I could care less if Windows radically changed with every new version, I can adopt as I'm sure many of you here can as well. What I noticed is people here tend to apply their own experience onto others and it doesn't always work, because the 99% aren't OS savy.

The same reason why government seem so out of touch with their citizens because they live in their little own world and believe everyone else thinks and operates like they do.
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Originally Posted by barcode71 View Post

This thread is a example of classic statistical fallacy. People are judging for themselves, not by an actual user behavior.

Arguing about the merits of Win8 vs Win7 is moot and a waste of time.

Numbers speak for themselves. Comments here seem more like armchair opinions than fact, because anyone can do a Google search and paste numbers and pictures to reinforce their misconceptions.

While it may not seem like a huge number, one of the companies I work for has removed Windows 8 from 520+ machines and reinstalled Windows 7 over the past 6 months. Clients range from law firms, clinics, schools, small to medium businesses and they are steadily receiving requests on a daily basis.

I could care less if Windows radically changed with every new version, I can adopt as I'm sure many of you here can as well. What I noticed is people here tend to apply their own experience onto others and it doesn't always work, because the 99% aren't OS savy.

The same reason why government seem so out of touch with their citizens because they live in their little own world and believe everyone else thinks and operates like they do.

Read that phrase, then read the rest of your post.
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Originally Posted by barcode71 View Post

This thread is a example of classic statistical fallacy. People are judging for themselves, not by an actual user behavior.

Arguing about the merits of Win8 vs Win7 is moot and a waste of time.

Numbers speak for themselves. Comments here seem more like armchair opinions than fact, because anyone can do a Google search and paste numbers and pictures to reinforce their misconceptions.

While it may not seem like a huge number, one of the companies I work for has removed Windows 8 from 520+ machines and reinstalled Windows 7 over the past 6 months. Clients range from law firms, clinics, schools, small to medium businesses and they are steadily receiving requests on a daily basis.

I could care less if Windows radically changed with every new version, I can adopt as I'm sure many of you here can as well. What I noticed is people here tend to apply their own experience onto others and it doesn't always work, because the 99% aren't OS savy.

The same reason why government seem so out of touch with their citizens because they live in their little own world and believe everyone else thinks and operates like they do.

Companies will do that and install XP onto machines as well.
companies tend to buy a bunch of the same PC's and reimaging them with a OS they need. Back at my old school every PC in a given lab had the same windows key as they were all imaged with the same image. Most of them came with windows vista COA.

Windows 7 is the new XP when it comes to business.

Doesn't mean windows 8 is bad
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This thread is a example of classic statistical fallacy.
I could care less if Windows radically changed with every new version, I can adopt as I'm sure many of you here can as well. What I noticed is people here tend to apply their own experience onto others and it doesn't always work, because the 99% aren't OS savy.

The same reason why government seem so out of touch with their citizens because they live in their little own world and believe everyone else thinks and operates like they do.

I don't mean to jump on you because I do believe you have a point. However, that bolded part right there, that's about 95% of the people who hate on Windows 8. Most people I know never even tried 8 and they hate on it. Bloody sheep every one of them. Most people who "try" 8 come at it with a negative attitude and quit using it after a week or a month. Never actually trying to be positive about the experience. There are many flaws with 8 but there were also may nuances that I had with 7 and had to work around. People just don't come to work on 8 with the same attitude which is my biggest problem with OCN as of late. Too many theory crafting and not enough critical thinking to go around.
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This thread is a example of classic statistical fallacy. People are judging for themselves, not by an actual user behavior.

Arguing about the merits of Win8 vs Win7 is moot and a waste of time.

Numbers speak for themselves. Comments here seem more like armchair opinions than fact, because anyone can do a Google search and paste numbers and pictures to reinforce their misconceptions.

While it may not seem like a huge number, one of the companies I work for has removed Windows 8 from 520+ machines and reinstalled Windows 7 over the past 6 months. Clients range from law firms, clinics, schools, small to medium businesses and they are steadily receiving requests on a daily basis.

I could care less if Windows radically changed with every new version, I can adopt as I'm sure many of you here can as well. What I noticed is people here tend to apply their own experience onto others and it doesn't always work, because the 99% aren't OS savy.

The same reason why government seem so out of touch with their citizens because they live in their little own world and believe everyone else thinks and operates like they do.
windows 8 and it's "apps" are a trap. especially for the crack users...
    
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Companies will do that and install XP onto machines as well.
companies tend to buy a bunch of the same PC's and reimaging them with a OS they need. Back at my old school every PC in a given lab had the same windows key as they were all imaged with the same image. Most of them came with windows vista COA.

Windows 7 is the new XP when it comes to business.

Doesn't mean windows 8 is bad

Never said it [Win8] was bad. I have Win8 on my VAIO with ClassicShell. It does what I need it to do and have no qualms with it.

Imagine if automobile manufactures decided to switch the gas and brake pedal around one day. That's how many users feel about Windows 8, at least with all the people and companies I've worked with the past 6 months. They don't hate it, they don't even have preconceptions, because many of them didn't even know there was a new version of Windows until their company purchased new desktops and laptops. They just feel the change didn't add to efficiency and productivity. They think the new interface is great for tablets and smartphones, but not so much for the average office worker.

Like I said before, many individuals are confused between a single user and a organization. A individual can change as often as they like because it'll only affect themselves. Changes in a business affects the whole and many of the complaints of Windows 8 are coming from businesses, because honestly, Microsoft could care less about the individual user because we aren't Microsoft's bread and butter.

That's why I find people on forums arguing about Windows 8 amusing, because it doesn't even concern YOU, the individual.
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That gas and brake pedal analogy regarding productivity and what not is a bit of an exaggeration, given that basically everything a modern computer user in business does is exactly the same apart from where they click to open programs. Once the program is open, there is barely any change.

Unless a workers workload consists of nothing but opening programs during an eight hour shift, the general experience is actually the same.

But I know what you were trying to say and I'm nit picking tongue.gif
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...and we are done here. I think this thread has ran it's course.
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