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i might give windows 8.1 a try i couldnt stand windows 8 but it was fast but other things annoyed me.
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I had to install a app on my windows 8 that put apps into windowed mode. Netflix works how I want it now. The other apps are great too windowed. I just don't need a huge 1440p screen for weather. I like having netflix open while I'm doing other things in other windows. That was the whole point of windows to begin with. They should knock off the 's' and call it Window 8.
 
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I had to install a app on my windows 8 that put apps into windowed mode. Netflix works how I want it now. The other apps are great too windowed. I just don't need a huge 1440p screen for weather. I like having netflix open while I'm doing other things in other windows. That was the whole point of windows to begin with. They should knock off the 's' and call it Window 8.

If 1440p, I'm assuming desktop... so why are you not using desktop mode?

Desktop mode is exactly like Windows 7 with a ton of improvements.

Metro mode is for tablets and phones.

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Originally Posted by Remix65 View Post

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So - in a nutshell - they've finally changed this from a cel-phone OS to a desktop OS. I can't tell if I'm supposed to applaud them or scold them. It's like when an addict gets clean; Do I praise him for getting clean or do I condemn him because he did drugs in the first place?
lmao. exactly.

Windows 8 was always a Desktop OR tablet/phone OS.

Stop trolling.
Edited by kennyparker1337 - 5/31/13 at 3:48pm
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so basicly you say that it better/faster for you to go throw menus to find the program u want to run rather then having a tile of the program linked to start (and instead of searching for the program you just click on the tile to run it ,looks much faster to me)

Anything I use on a daily basis is pinned to the task bar for swift use. I also have dozens of applications that may not be accessed any more than once a month or even once per quarter. The Metro interface is useless for me and would, in fact, be a hindrance to my productivity.
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Push windows key then start typing the first few letters of the name of the program you are looking for! It works for me I can find everything I need just as fast if not faster than I could with win 7.
It will be nice to have the start menu back but I have gotten used to using the start screen.

i am enjoying windows 8 and can't wait to see more exciting changes
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i have an audio program that's both windows and os x. through usb one can be hook up all sorts of midi hardware. on os x one can just get an app and use an iphone as a midi controller. that eliminates a $100-400 midi hardware. windows and android are behind in that aspect. even if android does catch up with the apps it's gonna be a long time before google really competes with apple.
i'm just disappointed and frustrated with windows/microsoft. microsoft is like the govt. it's too big and out of touch with the people. i remember numbers came out that windows 8 did worse than vista. then 2 weeks later microsoft made up numbers of how it's actually doing better than windows 7. then a few weeks later which is now they're going to release windows 8.1 because they listened to the users... smh.


intel and microsoft are out of touch with us and other companies need to step up to either wake them up or take their place.

yeah i notice the sluggishness and limitations of windows all the time too when compared to osx. a similar example to what you gave would clamshell mode with an external monitor in osx vs windows. support in osx is way more seamless. when i connect my laptop to my monitor then close it, in windows it goes to standby but cannot be work by my keyboard or mouse. in osx it will seamlessly switch to the external monitor. in osx, in clamshell mode, i get audio from my speakers. no such luck in windows.

i recently read the article describing the limitations of linux compared to windows, and how it is super hard to get simple performance enhancements done in windows because of the crippling need to support legacy apps for corporations. windows 8 has performance improvements, but is still slower than linux and the gap looks like it will only widen. the touch gimmick of windows 8 cannot resolve this issue. if they were trying to imitate apple they failed. still no proper scaling for high res monitors? progress is a very slow process at ms...
Edited by perfectblade - 5/31/13 at 5:39pm
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They don't have to win the game on their first try into a new world. I'm quite sure they knew that too.

They can improve on it over time, just as Android did, till its wide availability became more important than "Android needs this or that". They are also no longer waiting 3/4+ years to push significant updates to their OS with this 8.1 being proof of that.


MS already has the availability in terms of hardware visibility/variety and the hardware itself is also in an evolutionary/experimental stage, so they simply need to keep up the refinements and improving the UX and things will only get better.

That's the thing about software development. Things you complain about today can either be vastly improved upon or totally gone tomorrow and the result wont always be what is expected.
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They don't have to win the game on their first try into a new world. I'm quite sure they knew that too.

They can improve on it over time, just as Android did, till its wide availability became more important than "Android needs this or that".


MS already has the availability in terms of hardware visibility/variety and the hardware itself is also in an evolutionary/experimental stage, so they simply need to keep up the refinements and improving the UX and things will only get better.

That's the thing about software development. Things you complain about today can either be vastly improved upon or totally gone tomorrow and the result wont always be what is expected.

it just seems like windows development is so hampered by the need for legacy support, both in terms of performance and functionality. and this crippling need to support leads to slower development, which means the differences between windows and the unixes looks like they are just going to increase over time
Edited by perfectblade - 5/31/13 at 6:20pm
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I'm not sure what speed has to do with it tbh. If that was all that mattered, everyone would be on Linux, but that isn't all that matters.

Then there's the fact that MS aren't even fighting against Linux in terms of what they are trying to achieve with W8. Even though Ubuntu as popular as it is, is now aiming for the same thing in terms of a unified experience across different types of device, they are not their competition.

Anyway.

MS have already stated and now proven that their rate of development will be increasing with 8.1 and they have also shown that the updates are not going to be thin on additions.

Like I said, not even Microsoft would have been expecting to be winning all of the things on their first attempt and just like all software, it has the capability to evolve/improve as needed.

Again, as 8.1 is already proving, what you see of Windows 8 today, will likely not be what Windows 8.X and further releases will turn out to be as matured versions of Microsoft's new design paradigm.
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the windows sheeple defend windows cause well they don't know any better. it's until you use other platforms then you realize how slow and far behind ms is. and they can afford to make baby steps cause they have the majority of the people. same with intel.

its amazing how much i get done with my phone ($300) device compared to my computer (MS/Intel) ($3,000+)...

Yeah, because there's nothing a Windows PC can do that your iPhone can't do........ O_o

Like auto insert capital letters at the beginning of a sentence and such things.
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yeah i notice the sluggishness and limitations of windows all the time too when compared to osx. a similar example to what you gave would clamshell mode with an external monitor in osx vs windows. support in osx is way more seamless. when i connect my laptop to my monitor then close it, in windows it goes to standby but cannot be work by my keyboard or mouse. in osx it will seamlessly switch to the external monitor. in osx, in clamshell mode, i get audio from my speakers. no such luck in windows.

i recently read the article describing the limitations of linux compared to windows, and how it is super hard to get simple performance enhancements done in windows because of the crippling need to support legacy apps for corporations. windows 8 has performance improvements, but is still slower than linux and the gap looks like it will only widen. the touch gimmick of windows 8 cannot resolve this issue. if they were trying to imitate apple they failed. still no proper scaling for high res monitors? progress is a very slow process at ms...
the windows sheeple defend windows cause well they don't know any better. it's until you use other platforms then you realize how slow and far behind ms is. and they can afford to make baby steps cause they have the majority of the people. same with intel.

its amazing how much i get done with my phone ($300) device compared to my computer (MS/Intel) ($3,000+)...
    
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