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yea for me it is only 1.2v set for 4.5ghz, i can boot 5ghz and run a few benchmarks with 1.3v and mac is around 5.2ghz validation on air. I am also sing a stepping which has issues with holding vcore over 1.4v, but that is Intel's fault and they fixed it for the final revision(this was a big issue).
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Another review showing temp issue with Ocing Haswell with corsair h100i.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/06/01/intel-core-i7-4770k-cpu-review/8
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From here, though, the temperatures increased rapidly and we reached our limit of 4.7GHz using 1.257V and a scorching temperature of 98°C, and that's using a Corsair H100i, which we know to offer the best cooling short of a custom water-cooling kit. The jury is out on why this might be - the 22nm manufacturing process is clearly going to add a lot of heat density, as we saw with Ivy Bridge, but like Ivy Bridge, there's the issue of thermal paste vs solder too. We're not about to take a razor blade to our only test sample just yet but reports from the community on this will likely surface soon as to whether de-lidding is on the cards again.
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can haswell achieve at least the same performance as a ivy bridge overclock to ~4.5?
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can haswell achieve at least the same performance as a ivy bridge overclock to ~4.5?

It is aprox. 5% faster than ivy in cpu applications , igpu is obviously much better than ivy's but i think almost none of us care about that.
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I don't mind delidding but having to buy a whole new motherboard has me looking at ivy-E.

exactly, looking forward to the 4820k and a 2011 board
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Originally Posted by Xanatos View Post

can haswell achieve at least the same performance as a ivy bridge overclock to ~4.5?
It can, from reviews I've seen I'd say that Haswell at 4,3 GHz is roughly equal to 4,5GHz Ivy in games.
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From TTLs review, reaching 4.6Ghz @1.18V is pretty damn good, putting aside the fact that it was hitting upper 80c's while at it on a H100. At least it seems to have the voltage headroom unless it's durability has drastically decreased from Ivy. With proper cooling that thing will fly.
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From TTLs review, reaching 4.6Ghz @1.18V is pretty damn good, putting aside the fact that it was hitting upper 80c's while at it on a H100. At least it seems to have the voltage headroom unless it's durability has drastically decreased from Ivy. With proper cooling that thing will fly.

He went further on the review with the gigabyte board, he ended up with temps around 100°C. Intel are going to use paste from now on in by the looks of it.

I want to see how this preforms once IHS is removed. Has it been done yet?
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From TTLs review, reaching 4.6Ghz @1.18V is pretty damn good, putting aside the fact that it was hitting upper 80c's while at it on a H100. At least it seems to have the voltage headroom unless it's durability has drastically decreased from Ivy. With proper cooling that thing will fly.
Like LN2. Meh.
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Looks like Haswell won't be worth the upgrade for most . I worry about Ivy-E as I believe Intel used TIM on the Ivy die as solder caused problems with the Tri-Gate '3D' transistor technology on that chip. .
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