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And this is why it's stupid to judge something on a sample size of 1.

For all you know it's a bum chip
post #72 of 206
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Originally posted by BinaryDemon

 

That sucks, if Intel needs to start using decent TIM or raise the limit on their thermal specifications and say that it's safe to run at 90C for 24/7 operation.

If the TJMax is still 105C, then technically you could run it at 90C 24/7.  I wouldn't, but still.

post #73 of 206
Its conclusive. Haswell's NEED to be delidded before overclocking (multiple sources at this point). So, now I ask, has anyone seen a delidded Haswell as of yet?
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It seems that, like their Ivy Bridge predecessors, Haswell CPUs exhibit the same problem operating at high or very high temperatures when overclocked. Nevertheless, the user was able to receive some results for Core i7-4770K @ 4.5GHz, and they are presented in the table below:

http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2013/2013050801_New_benchmarks_of_Core_i5-4570_and_i7-4770K_CPUs_posted.html
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I thought intel switched back to liquid metal. Doesn't that mean no more delidding?
 
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I thought intel switched back to liquid metal. Doesn't that mean no more delidding?

Haswell uses the same TIM like Ivy. Delidding seems like a must
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Interesting. I thought the problem with ivy was the amount of glue between the edges of the ihs and the chip? if they fixed that and there are still problems, its kind of worrying.

but I wouldn't be surprised if one of the pegs on the stock intel heatsink was not seated properly. those things are the sorriest piece of crap to be bundled with such an advanced piece of technology. you would think they could at least make a deal with cooler master or someone for a somewhat decent properly mounted heatsink (i.e. actually being able to screw it down) or at least something like the amd mounts.
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Interesting. I thought the problem with ivy was the amount of glue between the edges of the ihs and the chip? if they fixed that and there are still problems, its kind of worrying.

but I wouldn't be surprised if one of the pegs on the stock intel heatsink was not seated properly. those things are the sorriest piece of crap to be bundled with such an advanced piece of technology. you would think they could at least make a deal with cooler master or someone for a somewhat decent properly mounted heatsink (i.e. actually being able to screw it down) or at least something like the amd mounts.

The irony is they include the "better" ones (HSFs) with a copper core with the better processors, where the users are far less likely to use them.

But yeah, those are seriously the worst pieces of crap ever. It's damn near impossible to install those things.
post #79 of 206
Intel is skimping on their QC, there is no reason for any of us to have to resort to deliding, why have they not fixed this issue already?
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Intel is skimping on their QC, there is no reason for any of us to have to resort to deliding, why have they not fixed this issue already?

Because we are the 1%. They can save a ton of money by using cheap cooling, as long as their product doesn't overheat. Appealing to the 1% that actually needs better cooling doesn't make them money, it costs money.
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